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In reply to the discussion: Rail Safety Megathread. Updated December 23, 2024 [View all]mahatmakanejeeves
(62,013 posts)61. Amtrak train that derailed was going just under speed limit
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Amtrak train that derailed was going just under speed limit
By AMY BETH HANSON, MARTHA BELLISLE and DAVID KOENIG
September 27, 2021
JOPLIN, Mont. (AP) An Amtrak train that derailed in rural Montana over the weekend was going just under the speed limit at about 75 mph (121 kph) when it went off the track along a gradual curve, killing three people and possibly ejecting passengers, U.S. investigators said Monday.
Investigators do not know the cause of the accident, but they are studying video from the train and another locomotive that went over the same track a little over an hour earlier, National Transportation Safety Board Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg said. The derailed train also had a black box that records everything happening in the train, he said. ... We have experts that are studying the camera footage frame by frame to make sure that we see exactly what the engineer saw or maybe didnt see, Landsberg said.
The train derailed before a switch in the line, where one set of tracks turned into two, on a stretch of track that had been inspected just two days before, he said. ... The westbound Empire Builder was traveling from Chicago to Seattle when it left the tracks Saturday afternoon near Joplin, a town of about 200. The train, carrying 141 passengers and 16 crew members, had two locomotives and 10 cars, eight of which derailed, with some tipping onto their sides.
When asked about wooden ties that were seen along the side of the tracks, and whether there was recent maintenance on that section, Landsberg did not answer directly. ... That will be one of the questions that we look at, he said. Maintenance will be a really big concern for us. We dont know, at this point, exactly what happened, whether it was a track issue, whether it was a mechanical issue with the train. So all of these things are open. ... He said a preliminary report on the derailment is expected within 30 days.
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Investigators will look at everything, including the switch, wheels, axles and suspension systems, as well as the track geometry and condition, including any cracks, said Steven Ditmeyer, a rail consultant and former senior official at the Federal Railroad Administration. He said a switch like the one in Joplin would be controlled by the BNSF Railway control center in Fort Worth, Texas. ... Sometimes rail lines can become deformed by heat, creating buckles in the tracks known as sun kinks, Ditmeyer said. That was the cause of a derailment in northern Montana in August 1988, when an Empire Builder train veered off the tracks about 170 miles (274 kilometers) east in the tiny town of Saco. ... The NTSB concluded that an inspection failed to catch a problem in the track, and officials did not warn trains to slow down on that stretch. The crew saw the track had shifted, but the train was going full speed and could not stop before derailing.
Temperatures were in the high 80s Saturday near Joplin, according to the National Weather Service. ... Russ Quimby, a former rail-accident investigator for the NTSB, said heat is the most likely explanation. He is convinced because the locomotives in front did not derail, but eight lighter coach cars behind them did. ... This has all the earmarks of a track buckle also, Quimby said. Sometimes a locomotive, which is heavier, will make it through a buckled track, but the cars following wont. You saw that in this accident, he said. ... A malfunction of the switch seems less likely, Quimby said, because the switch would have been inspected when the track was checked last week.
Another possibility was a defect in the rail, said railroad safety expert David Clarke, director of the Center for Transportation Research at the University of Tennessee. He noted that regular testing does not always catch such problems.
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By AMY BETH HANSON, MARTHA BELLISLE and DAVID KOENIG
September 27, 2021
JOPLIN, Mont. (AP) An Amtrak train that derailed in rural Montana over the weekend was going just under the speed limit at about 75 mph (121 kph) when it went off the track along a gradual curve, killing three people and possibly ejecting passengers, U.S. investigators said Monday.
Investigators do not know the cause of the accident, but they are studying video from the train and another locomotive that went over the same track a little over an hour earlier, National Transportation Safety Board Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg said. The derailed train also had a black box that records everything happening in the train, he said. ... We have experts that are studying the camera footage frame by frame to make sure that we see exactly what the engineer saw or maybe didnt see, Landsberg said.
The train derailed before a switch in the line, where one set of tracks turned into two, on a stretch of track that had been inspected just two days before, he said. ... The westbound Empire Builder was traveling from Chicago to Seattle when it left the tracks Saturday afternoon near Joplin, a town of about 200. The train, carrying 141 passengers and 16 crew members, had two locomotives and 10 cars, eight of which derailed, with some tipping onto their sides.
When asked about wooden ties that were seen along the side of the tracks, and whether there was recent maintenance on that section, Landsberg did not answer directly. ... That will be one of the questions that we look at, he said. Maintenance will be a really big concern for us. We dont know, at this point, exactly what happened, whether it was a track issue, whether it was a mechanical issue with the train. So all of these things are open. ... He said a preliminary report on the derailment is expected within 30 days.
{snip}
Investigators will look at everything, including the switch, wheels, axles and suspension systems, as well as the track geometry and condition, including any cracks, said Steven Ditmeyer, a rail consultant and former senior official at the Federal Railroad Administration. He said a switch like the one in Joplin would be controlled by the BNSF Railway control center in Fort Worth, Texas. ... Sometimes rail lines can become deformed by heat, creating buckles in the tracks known as sun kinks, Ditmeyer said. That was the cause of a derailment in northern Montana in August 1988, when an Empire Builder train veered off the tracks about 170 miles (274 kilometers) east in the tiny town of Saco. ... The NTSB concluded that an inspection failed to catch a problem in the track, and officials did not warn trains to slow down on that stretch. The crew saw the track had shifted, but the train was going full speed and could not stop before derailing.
Temperatures were in the high 80s Saturday near Joplin, according to the National Weather Service. ... Russ Quimby, a former rail-accident investigator for the NTSB, said heat is the most likely explanation. He is convinced because the locomotives in front did not derail, but eight lighter coach cars behind them did. ... This has all the earmarks of a track buckle also, Quimby said. Sometimes a locomotive, which is heavier, will make it through a buckled track, but the cars following wont. You saw that in this accident, he said. ... A malfunction of the switch seems less likely, Quimby said, because the switch would have been inspected when the track was checked last week.
Another possibility was a defect in the rail, said railroad safety expert David Clarke, director of the Center for Transportation Research at the University of Tennessee. He noted that regular testing does not always catch such problems.
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