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17. It did rebound and went on to set new all time highs
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 04:10 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:06 PM - Edit history (2)

then crashed in 2007-2009, then rebounded to set new all time highs...

The market has never, ever, ever set a new all time low, not even once. But it periodically sets new all time highs.

Over the long run, judging on the S&P 500 with dividends reinvested has averaged a 10.something% compounded average annualized return since 1926 -- that's a a doubling about every 7 years on average.

They say buy on the dips, not sell on the dips for good reason. Buying on the dip results in a gain when it inevitably gets back to its original value (if we're talking about a broad index fund like the S&P 500 index fund or Total Market fund). Selling on a dip locks in the loss on the dip.

Since its August 31, 1976 inception, the Vanguard S&P 500 index fund (VFINX) with dividends reinvested and after expenses, has returned 11.18%/year on average (through Nov 23, 2018). It has thus increased 87.75 fold during this 42.22 year period (1.1118^42.22 = 87.75). This represents, on average, a doubling every 6.54 years. On average.

https://www.thestreet.com/quote/VFINX.html

Yes...I've no intuition regarding money matters..At least not like some


Me neither. That's exactly why I'm a buy-and-hold investor, at least as far as a core of broad market index funds. Because I can't guess when and where the market will drop (I know it's inevitable), and I don't know when the market will rise (I know that's inevitable too). All I know is that the history of the market back almost 100 years is for higher lows and higher highs. So I don't attempt to time the market. Very few are successful at it enough to beat a buy-and-hold investor.

Studies have shown that the vast majority sell on dips, and then don't get back into the market until it has risen for years-- missing out on the gains that the unintuitive buy-and-hold investor has enjoyed all along. Studies by Dalbar and others have shown that most investors investing in mutual funds have done worse than the funds' performance because of this tendency to panic sell on the dips and to wait way too long to get back in.

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Imo, a very old, hyper-extended bull. empedocles Nov 2018 #1
Your age is a factor to consider... lastlib Nov 2018 #2
Excellent point, lastlib. Get some good advice on the right mix. Consider index funds. Nitram Nov 2018 #9
I put everything in a money market in February. Haven't lost a dime Squinch Nov 2018 #3
And rich people don't spend money either (not as much percentage wise), so big hit coming...nt SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #4
Exactly. They hoard it and move a lot offshore. Squinch Nov 2018 #5
Exactly what typically happens with the GOP!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #6
I taking about 50% out of investments and putting it in CDs and sinkingfeeling Nov 2018 #7
Nope. The market was due for an adjustment, and it will be going up and down for a while. Nitram Nov 2018 #8
If I may....... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2018 #10
One can switch funds within the same fund family and avoid capital gains taxes ?? progree Nov 2018 #11
You are correct, I was wrong! Should have taken the few seconds to Google first! A HERETIC I AM Nov 2018 #12
What funds? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #13
No financial advisor... Maxheader Nov 2018 #14
Keep in mind that PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #15
Yes...I've no intuition regarding Maxheader Nov 2018 #16
It did rebound and went on to set new all time highs progree Nov 2018 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #18
In the past I've used financial advisors with investment Maxheader Nov 2018 #19
Morningstar ratings are based on prior years performance. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2018 #20
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