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In reply to the discussion: Amy Bishop, Christopher Dorner personality and false accusation [View all]JackN415
(924 posts)8. This is a reply to Starry Messenger who posted the below message
Last edited Fri May 31, 2013, 05:40 PM - Edit history (1)
Poster Starry Messenger wrote:
I do find the repeated use of the term "race card" offensive and with you'd use something else. But this whole story seems really elaborate and I don't know what it has to do with schools or learning, except you don't like what this kid did.
White students get away with outrageous shit. Believe me. They use their race to their advantage constantly. To see a DUer harping on one kid who happened to be black who doesn't get to tell his side of the story here really bothers me.
White students get away with outrageous shit. Believe me. They use their race to their advantage constantly. To see a DUer harping on one kid who happened to be black who doesn't get to tell his side of the story here really bothers me.
I'm sorry that you feel offensive. Let's remove that term "race card" for now. But please think about this:
- where in my original post it specifies "white" or "black" as the race of the student?
- to be as unbiased as possible, I recommend you read the post with the assumption that the student's race be NOT yours, or any race that you have a strong feeling about. Please assume the student's race be what you are most neutral about. (e. g. south asian, chinese/east asian, pacific islander, hispanic, caucasian,.. yes, caucasian would be a racial minority in other countries such as, say China)
I hope you will see that this post is a lesson for those involved in the education business (professors, teachers, and students) to be aware of it, and for those who care about racial bias to be aware of the potential abuse.
By actively involving, educating others on curbing the abuse of racial allegation, it will make the environment such as this university a better education place for everyone.
Lastly, you mentioned I "don't like what this kid did." Just to let you know that I had no direct interaction with him (thanks god), except for being asked to review all his work and read his allegation. Even if I were of his race, a mental case is a mental case and I would call him a mental case.
What he did hurt my colleague's feeling and disturbed her substantially even after her trip that involved vacation (she said she couldn't get it out of her mind). It has unjust consequence to people's life. Are you defending him for what he did to her just because of your assumption that he were "black"?
Please read my post again to see how I have made clear that this kid's race has nothing to do with him being a bully. But it is bad that he used "race" as a ploy. If any of us cares about improving racial equality, we must be fair and racially neutral ourselves. We don't disparage the victim and defend the perpetrator just because the perpetrator is a member of our race and the victim is a member of other races.
Again, I wish to remove any term offensive to you and apologize. It is not intended. I only ask you to look at this case on its own merit. Let's assume the student be Asian and if you are not interested in calling out against the abuse of false racial accusation, then just forget it and I wish you peace.
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Just to let you know, "Accusation of academic bias involving race" was the official...
JackN415
May 2013
#9
I'm not defending what he allegedly did, I said he didn't get to tell his side on DU.
Starry Messenger
May 2013
#12
you might have suffered too much from your experience that prevents you from...
JackN415
Jun 2013
#13
of course it's part of the job. teachers work with all kinds of people, from all kinds of
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#16
look, you want to argue about the minutia of this case, go somewhere else & do it.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#18
I'm not defending what he allegedly did, I said he didn't get to tell his side on DU.
JackN415
Jun 2013
#14