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Caribbeans

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Tue Dec 3, 2024, 03:43 AM Dec 3

California can't use all its solar power. That's a huge problem. CA's solar plants don't even operate at full capacity [View all]



California can't use all its solar power. That's a huge problem.

As residents see sky-high bills, California's solar plants don't even operate at full capacity

SF Gate.com | Stephen Council, Tech Reporter | Dec 2, 2024

Over the past two decades, California has become a juggernaut of solar energy production. But that doesn’t mean its residents are reaping huge benefits.

A new analysis by Los Angeles Times staff writer Melody Petersen found major problems in the state’s current solar economy. Oversupply of solar power is causing California’s operators to regularly halt production or even pay electricity traders to take power off their hands. Sometimes, other states snag the extra energy for cheap. Meanwhile, California residents, businesses and factories pay around two to three times as much for power as the national average.

There are a range of factors at play, but a key takeaway from the Times’ analysis is that California’s most-in-the-nation solar panel buildup isn’t enough for an ideal alternative energy model. Millions of dollars of electricity go to waste because the infrastructure isn’t in place to store or move all the solar power.

California boasts some of the biggest solar farms in North America, with three huge plants opened in the mid-2010s. The state was responsible for nearly a fourth of utility-scale American solar power generation in 2023. California has an even larger share of the nation’s small-scale market, with many homes and businesses sporting their own panels. But as the Times pointed out, residential rates for customers of PG&E and Southern California Edison have risen by 51% over the past three years, far surpassing general inflation.

Despite the high prices, the Times found that California’s solar farms have curtailed production — meaning slowed or stopped — of more than 3 million megawatt hours over the past 12 months. That’s more than twice the amount from 2021, per the outlet, and is enough wasted energy to power 518,000 average Californian homes for a year. Meanwhile, the state is trying to build more solar plants to reach its renewable energy goals; a UC Berkeley researcher cited by the Times raised concerns that the intense curtailment will get in the way...more
https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/california-solar-power-oversupply-problem-19953942.php

Whatever could be done with too much renewable energy?

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No rational person builds a plant to accommodate a few hours every few weeks of otherwise useless power. NNadir Dec 3 #1
I agree, Hydrogen should only be made using some of this excess green energy rather than fossil fuels... Think. Again. Dec 3 #4
Hydrogen is only Figarosmom Dec 3 #6
Or we could store the excess clean energy using Hydrogen made from other excess clean energy! Think. Again. Dec 3 #7
Around here, there is a lot of ignorant people who regard energy storage as primary energy. In any case... NNadir Dec 3 #11
"Millions of dollars of electricity go to waste because the infrastructure isn't in place to store or move all the solar Think. Again. Dec 3 #2
is there funding coming from the infrastructure bill? SleeplessinSoCal Dec 3 #8
Oh yes, the Inflation Reduction Act and the Infrastructure Investment Act both dedicate funds to energy distribution... Think. Again. Dec 3 #9
It proves it's not pie in the sky thinking Figarosmom Dec 3 #3
Great idea! Think. Again. Dec 3 #5
That won't work. druidity33 Dec 3 #10
It proves no such thing. It's garbage thinking. NNadir Dec 3 #12
Other forms of energy storage are possible for CA BubbaJoe Dec 3 #13
How giant 'batteries' in the Earth could slash your electricity bills. usonian Dec 3 #14
We don't generate very much "clean" energy. NNadir Dec 3 #15
should be rooftop solar on houses and businesses not solar farms for corporate welfare nt msongs Dec 3 #16
Yup. There's nothing better on this planet than giving tax breaks to the rich; houses would be the thing to do it. NNadir Dec 3 #17
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