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moniss

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Thu Sep 19, 2024, 07:19 PM
Sep 2024

thing since 10/7. It began before that. As far as what goes on in Southern Lebanon and around Beirut long before the 200,000 pulled out the IDF has been taking actions in Lebanon that even the retired Israeli generals and government leaders admitted were constant provocations and it was "refreshing", even belatedly, for them to admit this in their memoirs etc. The picture painted by the Israeli government was always that they were just sitting on their side of the border minding their own situation and "trying to live in peace" when in fact as they admitted much later on nearly the entire time they were executing a plan of "attack to provoke response" and then claim it was the people on the Lebanese side of the border who were attacking and that the IDF was only responding.

Horrible groups like Hezbollah and Hamas etc. didn't pop up out of thin air and as response to nothing. When the British said to the UN in the '40's that going ahead with a partition plan that did not have agreement by all sides they warned that this never-ending conflict would be the result. But now here we are and the British were right. It doesn't matter whether the name is Hamas or Hezbollah because there was violent resistance and terror before they existed and there will be groups by other names after. The Israeli approach and the Palestinian/Supporters approach has not worked in nearly 80 years.

One can say this has a "solution" that is elimination of this military group or that but the seeds for new groups to take their place have been growing along. In nearly 80 years neither "side" has shown, as I've said before, the olive branch in one hand without having a whole other non-disclosed plan in the other hand to keep going at each other. That is born out when the memoirs are written and the documents disclosed. Neither side here wants anything less than to get what they want by any means necessary and to keep on that track. There is no desire to forgive each other only to blame each other and each one holds that in their heart every moment of every day. A never-ending battle of each side behaving like children who scream to the adults "he hit me first".

I've been clear from the beginning about condemning the horrible behavior by all sides and their supporters in the region and around the world through the many decades before 1948 and after. People posit to me "well what is your solution?" and I honestly don't have one although at one time I thought the "2 state" thing could make it. So now all I can do is make observations like I did the other day about the Gaza gas fields perhaps being developed to help the future of Gaza by enlisting a consortium of countries in the region who have experience in developing that kind of resource and integrating into the benefit of an economy. But as far as whether it will happen or peace will come I have no confidence. Nothing has shown in nearly 80 years to give it.

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