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6chars

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8. this kind of law is common
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jun 2016

You are implicitly saying that an organization spending money is equal to speech. OK, the Supreme Court agrees with you on that, e.g., Citizen's United.

Nonetheless, governments often use laws to influence such actions. For example,
private organizations are free to spend their resources as they want as long as it does not violate criminal law, but they can't expect the government to want to do business with them.

Title IX: No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance.


What about a business that refuses to serve gays? Isn't that speech? Well, no, they might be charged with violations of the Civil Rights Act, or other discrimination laws, and the government could also refuse to do business with them.

These laws have been tested and are constitutional. There are certainly people who disagree with them, and there are certainly opportunities for private organizations to do choose not to be open to the public at all and to act in ways that the rest of us may not approve, but even though they won't be jailed or fined, they can't expect government support.

Just because Ben Norton and friends may want the constitution to be against Israel, doesn't mean it is and sloppy reasoning won't make it so.

On another point, Ben Norton's introduction of "McCarthyism" to describe support of Israel is a new one, but not surprising. Zionists are now called every bad thing in the world: Apartheid, Fascist, Racist, Genocidal, Colonialist, Imperialist, and now McCarthyite. This is getting kind of transparent - the projection of all the sins of the modern world onto one small country.





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The usual Ben Norton article oberliner Jun 2016 #1
In my eagerness to find an article that reflected my anger at Cuomo's attacks on free speech, Little Tich Jun 2016 #4
LoL at hypocrite boycotters of Israel angry at being boycotted. shira Jun 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Jun 2016 #3
Ben Norton ? King_David Jun 2016 #5
BDS groups prove Cuomo right; their goal is to destroy Israel.... shira Jun 2016 #6
I don't think that using one of the most extreme pro-Palestinian groups as a representative sample Little Tich Jun 2016 #7
this kind of law is common 6chars Jun 2016 #8
I'm not the only one who believes that Cuomo is attacking free speech. Little Tich Jun 2016 #14
Why not? Their position is your position in every way. They're just open about it. shira Jun 2016 #9
I don't like to be associated with racists, thank you. Little Tich Jun 2016 #15
Really? Mondoweiss supports the Free Palestine Movement & you like Mondoweiss.1 shira Jun 2016 #16
They represent BDS perfectly. Let's see any leaders within BDS come out..... shira Jun 2016 #12
Don't you wish all BDS'ers were this honest? aranthus Jun 2016 #10
It's why I respect Hamas more than the BDS clowns... shira Jun 2016 #11
The Palestinian leaders of BDS are almost as honest. aranthus Jun 2016 #13
You've got me there... Little Tich Jun 2016 #17
You're missing the point. aranthus Jun 2016 #18
I don't think boycotting Apartheid is anti-Semitic. Little Tich Jun 2016 #19
That belief seems nice but if implemented you know what would happen.... shira Jun 2016 #20
Israel has managed to absorb a large number of immigrants before without as much as a hiccup. Little Tich Jun 2016 #21
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