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Ken Burch

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26. The only alternative is to work with that leadership?
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 05:30 AM
Jun 2016

They're the ones with the weaponry.

It would be pointless to work with anyone else. Any agreement made with anyone else would be useless.

And it's pointless to try to change the Palestinian leadership.

The last time the Israeli government tried that(in the Eighties, when the Likud regime of that era put removing Arafat and the PLO from that position, the only thing that came of it was the rise of Hamas, which the Israelis had inadvertently triggered by encouraging and financially supporting the Muslim Brotherhood-Hamas' predecessor organization-to challenge the PLO's leadership status. There was never a single moment in that era when it was ever possible that an alternative Palestinian leadership could possibly have emerged that would both have met Likud's demands that Palestinians forever give up on statehood AND been accepted as legitimate by the Palestinian people themselves(or, more importantly, could ever have gained the allegiance of those engaged in the armed struggle).

This is why, bad as the current Palestinian leadership is, it is both arrogant and futile to insist that Palestinians remove that leadership from power before the Israeli side will ease its repressive measures in the West Bank or its siege in Gaza at all.

Both sides have horrible leadership...but it is the leadership on the Israeli side that holds all the power in this situation.

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I thought they crapcanned the $15 minimum wage?! Did I read this wrong? floriduck Jun 2016 #1
Why would you applaud a refusal to oppose the settlements? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #2
because settlements are an issue for Israel and Palestinians, not the DNC. ericson00 Jun 2016 #3
Keeping public silence(which is the same thing as endorsing everything Netanyahu does) Ken Burch Jun 2016 #9
Hillary Clinton King_David Jun 2016 #12
You don't have to defend the settlements and the occupation to be "Pro-Israel" Ken Burch Jun 2016 #15
You don't think that providing the Palestinians "with independence, sovereignty, and dignity" FBaggins Jun 2016 #16
It's an issue for the U.S. because the Occupation largely gets funded here. leveymg Jun 2016 #29
This... deathrind Jun 2016 #30
Bernie: King_David Jun 2016 #4
The Sanders people got to speak their piece. They just didn't have the votes on this issue. bluestateguy Jun 2016 #5
not to mention, shouldn't the $15 min wage be more important ericson00 Jun 2016 #6
Yes bluestateguy Jun 2016 #7
agreed on the $15, but during the primary, I wasn't quite on board with $15 ericson00 Jun 2016 #8
Opposing the settlements(Ben-Gurion opposed the idea of settling the West Bank from the get-go) Ken Burch Jun 2016 #10
And who was it that elected leftynyc Jun 2016 #11
I'm not sure Israels best interests are at heart there at all. King_David Jun 2016 #13
Ain't that the truth leftynyc Jun 2016 #14
The Palestinians have suffered just as many wrongs in this conflict as the Israelis. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #18
But ONLY Israel leftynyc Jun 2016 #20
Palestinians have never had any security TO give up. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #22
Perhaps they should have taken the state leftynyc Jun 2016 #23
I talk about Netanyahu because he is the one the US contunues to arm and enable. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #24
But nothing to say about leftynyc Jun 2016 #25
The only alternative is to work with that leadership? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #26
Rewarding terrorism is not going to happen leftynyc Jun 2016 #28
Right, still nothing to say about arming & funding the PA. n/t shira Jun 2016 #27
For that matter, who elected you? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
:)...... Israeli Jun 2016 #19
I'm not the one making leftynyc Jun 2016 #21
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