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Little Tich

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Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:38 PM Sep 2016

Mondoweiss: A lot of the grief over Shimon Peres is grief over the end of the two-state solution [View all]

Source: Mondoweiss, by Philip Weiss, September 29, 2016

A lot of the grief over Shimon Peres is grief over the end of the two-state solution. The obsequies for Peres may be helpful to mainstream figures in coming to terms with a passing that is more tragic to them personally, and that so many have denied: the death of the idea of a viable Palestinian state alongside Israel.

And that is good news: because it is a reflection of reality.

Peres died at a time of growing signs that the U.S. establishment is waking up to realities that it has denied for a long time. There will be no Palestinian state. Israel will not withdraw from the occupation. We have entered the era of a binational state, and people should recalibrate their expectations, and their demands on the sovereign, the Israeli government.

This awareness is explicit in eulogies to Peres. Roger Cohen has a very good column today; because he writes sincerely about his love for something that has passed and acknowledges that the dream of an idealistic Israel has died in the eyes of the world:

I began by saying that a void fills the soul. It does, for those like myself who love Israel. But because of the politics of the past two decades, fewer people love Israel today, more people are reflexively hostile. In Peres, a noble idea of the Jewish State clung on against the dismal tide.

And now?


Read more: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/09/grieving-mainstream-acknowledges/

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after reading about the sunni shia and other issues in the middle east JI7 Sep 2016 #1
Mondoweiss, the hub of the BDS movement, shits on Peres in 3 other articles... shira Sep 2016 #2
Now that you've attacked the messenger, why don't you try attacking the message? Little Tich Sep 2016 #3
"Leftist mantra"? The extreme Left opposes a 2 state solution. shira Oct 2016 #4
Please read the OP again... Little Tich Oct 2016 #5
The arguments all ignore a fundamental truth. aranthus Oct 2016 #6
Demise of which 2 state solution? The one b/w a Jewish state & a Palestinian one? shira Oct 2016 #7
Hope for peace died long before Peres aranthus Oct 2016 #8
Question for you, Tich. Since the Palestinian Leadership doesn't want peace... shira Oct 2016 #9
It doesn't matter what the Palestinians want - the one-state solution will happen either way... Little Tich Oct 2016 #10
Nice cop-out. They didn't want peace in Rabin's day either, so what was the excuse then? shira Oct 2016 #11
Who cares? Little Tich Oct 2016 #12
Of course there are ways to solve it. aranthus Oct 2016 #13
None of those options seem plausible to me. Little Tich Oct 2016 #14
They are all plausible. aranthus Oct 2016 #15
So, basically a bi-national state without civil rights for Palestinians then... Little Tich Oct 2016 #16
Now you're falling back on Leftist dogma and propaganda. aranthus Oct 2016 #17
So, the Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem get Israeli citizenship. Little Tich Oct 2016 #18
Is this based on that list of discriminatory laws that you ahve already been shown is a lie? aranthus Oct 2016 #19
Partially based on that list, yes. Little Tich Oct 2016 #20
There are several scenarios. aranthus Oct 2016 #21
any solution to the I/P conflict where neither side gets shafted is fine with me. n/t Little Tich Oct 2016 #22
Tich's only evidence that Israel is Jim Crow is Adalah's list of lies... shira Oct 2016 #23
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