Creative Speculation

Frank_Norris_Lives

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1. My favorite....

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:12 AM

Feb 2013

....is probably the footprint contradiction.

1. Always say the two towers collapsed into their own footprint.

2. Debunkers (cue screaming): "They did not collapse into their own footprint!" And the debunkers are right. In fact, the building's pieces immediately begin to splay outward and the debris field for each tower is something like almost 500 fit. wide.

3. BUT, then the debunkers rely on Bazant's "Crush Down - Crush Up" theory. A theory that ignores the loss of building material and mass.

So, we are expected to believe this splaying material had enough concentrated, downward force to burrow down the entire core, through sections of greatest resistance of thicker, more robust and intact materials.

Absolutely ludicrous.

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Conspiracy v. fact 9/11 [View all] Prog_gun_owner Feb 2013 OP

My favorite.... Frank_Norris_Lives Feb 2013 #1

Yup, ludicrous. But... tomk52 Mar 2013 #13

My apologies..... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #46

thanks for reply. tomk52 Mar 2013 #51

The engines of the plane that hit the Pentagon energetically dissasembled themselves when they diges AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #2

Ok Prog_gun_owner Feb 2013 #3

I don't know what the fuck "Thur-mate" is. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #4

The whole "official" 9/11 story is riddled with stinking-lying Republican holes Berlum Feb 2013 #5

You do realize, don't you ... tomk52 Mar 2013 #57

Could thermite cutters even survive a plane impact? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #62

Depends on what the word "survive" means... tomk52 Mar 2013 #63

Thank-you Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #70

An aside... tomk52 Mar 2013 #64

Here's a picture of what tomk52 is talking about. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #65

Thank-you -- I was about to "Press 1 for English" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #69

You do realize that the NIST animation Politicalboi May 2013 #73

Um, the south tower core columns up to floor 50 or so are visible standing in the dust AtheistCrusader May 2013 #78

LOL ocpagu May 2013 #79

I thought you truthers gave up... tomk52 May 2013 #81

The right way to ask questions... tomk52 Mar 2013 #6

In that case, I have a first question..... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #8

Jet engines don't leave thick, white exhaust trails until ... tomk52 Mar 2013 #9

Are you saying.... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #14

I am saying that ... tomk52 Mar 2013 #16

A well-reasoned explanation for the smoke trail: greyl Mar 2013 #19

Nice animation but.... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #20

Luckily, there's VIDEO of that exceedingly short period of time. Remember that? nt greyl Mar 2013 #22

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things, ... tomk52 Mar 2013 #23

Well, that's strange because..... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #26

Well, I have to agree that this is strange... tomk52 Mar 2013 #32

One certainly can't help but admire... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #39

OF COURSE you get to ignore all those witnesses. tomk52 Mar 2013 #40

Well said! zappaman Mar 2013 #41

Wow...... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #42

... said Frank, rubbing his sore ass. William Seger Mar 2013 #43

And here is your last bastion ... tomk52 Mar 2013 #44

You and.... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #47

LOL, I had forgotten that... William Seger Mar 2013 #48

What you scoffin' at, Willis?? tomk52 Mar 2013 #53

Well, there has to be SOME explanation William Seger Mar 2013 #55

Yup. tomk52 Mar 2013 #56

2nd last bastion... tomk52 Mar 2013 #52

They'll say anything Politicalboi May 2013 #74

Saying nonsense doesn't make it true. tomk52 May 2013 #82

How did the engines penetrate through a 10' hole? BobbyBoring Mar 2013 #10

5 sentences. So much misinformation... tomk52 Mar 2013 #12

Aren't we here.... Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #15

You went thru a lot of effort to be this lazy ... tomk52 Mar 2013 #17

Good Grief! Frank_Norris_Lives Mar 2013 #21

You got a bus to catch...?? tomk52 Mar 2013 #25

We have for years Politicalboi May 2013 #75

It wasn't a 10 foot hole hack89 Mar 2013 #27

This is a 90' hole? BobbyBoring Mar 2013 #49

That is the 10' EXIT hole in the Pentagon E ring - not the entrance hole in the facade. hack89 Mar 2013 #50

Bobby, anything more to say...? tomk52 Mar 2013 #45

You say you read the FEMA/ASCE Pentagon BPAT report? tomk52 Mar 2013 #54

I have questions that don't involve the collapses Politicalboi Mar 2013 #7

Here's an answer that doesn't involve collapses... tomk52 Mar 2013 #11

Wow... what a waste of time reading this. ocpagu Mar 2013 #18

Are you kidding? tomk52 Mar 2013 #24

Several of Bazant's explanations... ocpagu Mar 2013 #30

Again, tomk52 Mar 2013 #31

On NIST site ocpagu Mar 2013 #35

Yup, I didn't think you understood either one. tomk52 Mar 2013 #37

There are pictures of seats (with bodies attached) hack89 Mar 2013 #28

Because... ocpagu Mar 2013 #29

How do you pack so much "wrong"... tomk52 Mar 2013 #58

LOL. ocpagu Mar 2013 #60

This has become a pattern. tomk52 Mar 2013 #61

Ya can't have it both ways, government apologists AlwaysQuestion Mar 2013 #33

Yeah right zappaman Mar 2013 #34

Who in this planet has ever used the expression ocpagu Mar 2013 #36

it's 2005 all over again? tomk52 Mar 2013 #38

You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place stevebreeze May 2013 #76

Because.... Frank_Norris_Lives May 2013 #77

He knows that... ocpagu May 2013 #80

There's nothing resembling sound premises or valid logical inferences in your argument William Seger Mar 2013 #59

Pro_gun_owner...Here's a link to a video that I encourage you to watch... truth2power Mar 2013 #66

"... not honestly searching for a resolution ..." tomk52 Apr 2013 #67

No thanks.... truth2power Apr 2013 #68

you seem to have a "legal" slant on things... tomk52 Apr 2013 #71

Welcome to the club Politicalboi May 2013 #72