Creative Speculation
In reply to the discussion: Conspiracy v. fact 9/11 [View all]truth2power
(8,219 posts)tomk52 -
From your profile I see that you've only been registered here a short while, but perhaps you've been lurking for much longer.
The reason I mention this is that you may or may not be aware that in the "old DU" there was actually a September 11 forum. The arguments there never bore any fruit, as far as I could tell.
Nonetheless, the hashing and re-hashing went on for years, frequently characterized by what were clearly disinformation tactics on the part of some posters, i.e., straw-men, ridicule, or calls for impossible proofs, just to name a few.
Now we have the new DU and discussion of 9/11 goes on under the topic of "Creative Speculation" and at the same level as the sub-topic, "Weird News". IMO, the signal is clear: "Don't take anything said in the creative speculation forum too seriously", which is a pre-emptive strike against any serious discussion of 9/11, entirely.
In your challenge, above, you seem to be conflating evidence with proof. Evidence "proves" nothing. If there is evidence that a crime has been committed, then that evidence needs to be presented in a court of law where a judge or jury will decide, and even then, only 'beyond a reasonable doubt'; or, in a civil case, by 'a preponderance of the evidence'. Neither of which presupposes absolute 100% certainty.
I have met the 'prove it' argument many times before, and I've determined that it's of no benefit to go there.
Furthermore, you have asked me to provide my three strongest arguments and you will tell me where (not if, but where) they collapse. And if I provide my next strongest, and the next, and the next, you are already assuming that they WILL collapse.
I see no benefit to wasting my time (and yours) in pursuing such a fruitless endeavor.
To the best of my ability, I have critically examined the events of 9/11 and have determined for myself that the official narrative can't be true. Others may think what they wish, which is the reason I suggested to pro_gun_owner that he watch those buildings fall and ask himself what he sees. If it's nothing anomalous, then so be it.
Thank you for your respectful reply.
t2p