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In reply to the discussion: DU has a transphobia problem [View all]
 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
46. Yes it does. I'm sorry, world, but it does.
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:51 AM
May 2022

This is going to be a lengthy post, apologies in advance. I'm going to try to keep it as thoughtful and neutral and calm as possible, but... I will open this by saying I am very upset, very hurt, and very scared over what I've seen (casually, along with posted directly at me) over the months...

The trans community here has seen more than its share of cruelty in recent months. Fittingly, it started off in the first place with Chappelle last fall, and has now gone full-circle by going back to Chappelle this week. Maybe it's all coincidence, maybe it's not. But here we are, months later, and nothing much seems to have changed... All the while, over 300 bills have been introduced by the QOP, targeting the LGBTQ community - especially the T's.... And we're not even half-way through 2022.

We have been beaten over the head by Chappelle... Because, apparently, it's easier to speak up for a rich, famous comedian with a loud microphone - even when he uses that microphone to speak hate - than it is to speak up for a vulnerable minority that's very much in the crosshairs. All the while, we're told we need thicker skin and need to take a joke. A joke. Speaking about people in a way that laughs at their very existence, and dehumanizes them, is not humor. I know how to make a joke. Hell, I DJ online, and I've made enough jokes at my own expense - some funny, some bordering on self-loathing. I know what a joke is. "Beyond pussy" and "beet juice" and his ranting and raving aren't jokes. We're not laughing because what he says hurts deeply, during a very bad time...

Never once have I seen anyone in any of the Chappelle threads ask us how we feel or what we think. We've been told what to think and feel. Maybe people would learn something if they took the time to ask us "Why aren't you laughing?" Because there is a fine line between finding something funny (stereotypes about makeup or wigs or insanely high heels?) and talking about someone like they're a subhuman freak.

Chappelle didn't just cross that line... He left it light years in his rearview mirror. And, let's not forget... "I'm Team TERF!" Is that any different than if I were to say "I'm Team MAGA!" or "I'm Team Q!"? No. It's not.

I have, over the months, been talked down to when I've tried to speak up, like I have no right to speak on an issue that not only deeply affects me personally, but a matter that President Biden speaks up about and fights for. This isn't compromising with DADT... This is a President - the leader of our party - making it very clear that trans rights are human rights, and anti-trans discrimination is dehumanizing.

Yet, for a long time now, we've been told that we "lose elections" because of LGBTQ issues. We've been told we can't risk fighting for this, because "we're such a small group." This is a core Democratic issue. This is the right thing to do. These are human rights. Our very President stands for them. The QOP are the ones who've done all the attacking... And yet, some won't speak up or fight for that... But they'll fight us.

I have had people reply directly to me and tell me to my face that "I speak from privilege." I am a Match Game fan. I can fill in the blank. The blank is between "from" and "privilege". That word is "male". Because I wasn't born female, I am a male in their eyes, and therefore I'm pulling male privilege... even though I have not identified as male in over 30 years. I'm sorry, but such statements are one step away from blatantly misgendering me, using a slur, or even calling me an "it".

I have been lectured about chromosomes, and told "You respect the science on vaccines, but you can't respect the science on gender?" The kind of stuff I would expect to hear from the fang-dripping mouth of MTG... Again, discrimination and bigotry. An absolutely cruel, insensitive, dehumanizing statement... Not made toward the transgender community in general, but aimed specifically and personally at one trans person.

This is supposed to be a safe space. We should not be expected to debate our lives, or our existence. We should not be expected to beg for our rights, or even whether we can live. This, going on during a time when the QOP has made us the Ultimate Enemy. This, during a time when people like us an our allies are being labeled as "Groomers". I sit in fear, wondering when the shooting starts. Because as we've seen, it often starts with talk, then turns into them shooting "the others".

I'm going to toss out a few examples... The kind of stuff we have had to face. The kind of stuff that wouldn't fly here, while we're expected to "educate" and "grow a thick skin".

How much hot water would someone get into if they barged into the threads about the Roe leak with "Quit being so sensitive!" or "We can't get caught up in this kind of culture war stuff. This is why we lose elections!"? How many seconds would it take that person to go from "Active" to "Posting Privileges Revoked"?

How well would it go over defending a comedian who makes rape jokes? Hell, how well would it go over to be a fierce advocate for Johnny Depp, or tell upset women to "grow a thicker skin!" because they want to enjoy 21 Jump Street or Edward Scissorhands or whatever?

Back when I actually conversed with Republiqans, I had a few try to dismiss "Grab her by the pussy!" as a joke or "locker room talk". Guess what? It was neither. We all know that. But somehow Chappelle's stuff is a joke?

We're supposed to engage in debate over our rights and our lives? Think it'd be cool if we had a debate over Buffalo, or even say what someone said in the comments on Kotaku (you know, that allegedly liberal site owned by famous herb Jim Spanfeller), where they tried to blame the shooting on rap music? Someone playing that card would be called out for racism and quickly.

Yet we've taken abuse. We've had bigotry thrown in our faces. Bigotry that juries have excused, while speaking up and pushing back and calling it out gets hides. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure the jury system is equipped to handle bigotry, particularly when it's veiled or comes in the form of micro-aggressions. Many here have not walked a mile in our stiletto heels (see, there's your joke). They don't know what we face. They don't know what it's like. They don't know the subtle and not-so-subtle ways we've been told for many years "You're fake" and "Genetics" and "We don't care about you." And fighting back against bigotry... That's a core value of the modern-day Democratic party. It's what we do. It shouldn't get us punished.

We are human beings. We deserve human rights. We are part of the Democratic base and have been for a long time. We have a president who now fights for us, during a time where we are very much targeted and at risk... And yet, some of us feel unsafe here. Unwelcome here.

Our lives aren't easy. They're scary at times. We have our own private hell to live through. We have our own shit we have to deal with that doesn't involve DU, or even the internet. We have our own scars. We should feel safe here. Yet we don't...

Why? What did we ever do to anyone? How much do we take? When does it stop?

I'm beyond tired. Tired of it all. Tired of the last half-century. Tired of the last 14 years especially. I'm hurt and I'm scared and I'm angry and so much anymore, I just want to be with my partner again.

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DU has a transphobia problem [View all] vercetti2021 May 2022 OP
Really? gay texan May 2022 #1
The thread got locked vercetti2021 May 2022 #10
About 10 posts have been removed, too. ShazzieB May 2022 #39
It got really bad vercetti2021 May 2022 #40
OFFS BWdem4life May 2022 #43
I missed the thread before the lock, but frankly I'm surprised that many posts were hidden AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #42
Half of the posts hidden were ours obamanut2012 May 2022 #51
This IngridsLittleAngel May 2022 #54
Ugh AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #55
If I saw any transphobia / hate here, I'd report it as would 99% of us! I haven't seen it though..nt TeamProg May 2022 #24
There was a lot of pooh poohing and "That's all he said???" BradAllison May 2022 #26
Yes, for a long time obamanut2012 May 2022 #50
I'm sorry this is happening to you. WhiteTara May 2022 #2
I sincerely hope you don't leave. spicysista May 2022 #3
Please don't let them chase you out of here. cate94 May 2022 #4
My take, v blm May 2022 #5
You have my full support, V! SheltieLover May 2022 #6
I will back you any time you see these threads or comments. MuseRider May 2022 #7
Stay, and ditto to all the posts above. c-rational May 2022 #8
Me too! blueinredohio May 2022 #12
And me. I don't follow this guy but no one should feel bad enough to leave Deuxcents May 2022 #14
For whatever little it may be worth, you have my support. Personally, Chappelle's "comedy" is not LoisB May 2022 #9
I am so sorry for what you are going through, people can be so unkind sometimes.... FM123 May 2022 #11
Sorry to hear that Lithos May 2022 #13
F Chappelle!! He is a bigot! Eko May 2022 #15
We need your voice here.. Permanut May 2022 #16
I have a trans child. momta May 2022 #17
This nt Laffy Kat May 2022 #20
It isn't easy vercetti2021 May 2022 #35
Fuck Chappelle Johnny2X2X May 2022 #18
Nah, dude, you didn't defend tarns folks in that thread, you did the opposite obamanut2012 May 2022 #52
There really does seem to be that element here. Laffy Kat May 2022 #19
It bothers me when our community has these moments BootinUp May 2022 #21
It has a general casual homophobia problem, too. Saviolo May 2022 #22
I agree vercetti2021 May 2022 #36
I'm with you. Andy Canuck May 2022 #23
I have a trans child. Murphyb849 May 2022 #25
I'm so sorry vercetti2021 May 2022 #37
I'm sorry this crap is happening and agree that it needs to stop. WestMichRad May 2022 #27
... Ferrets are Cool May 2022 #28
Thank you, V. summer_in_TX May 2022 #29
I hope you don't leave. Clearly your point of view is desperately needed here. onecaliberal May 2022 #30
I believe in freedom for all! The Jungle 1 May 2022 #31
Please don't leave! lunatica May 2022 #32
Continue your contributions. They are valuable. Nululu May 2022 #33
I'm sorry you've been hurt dai13sy May 2022 #34
Sorry this is happening here. What can we do? Seriously! n/t KatK May 2022 #38
i'm sorry friend. mopinko May 2022 #41
As a forum host, I wish we could lock these types of threads, but unless EarlG is brought in, it's JudyM May 2022 #44
Some of us really need voices like yours. cos dem May 2022 #45
Yes it does. I'm sorry, world, but it does. IngridsLittleAngel May 2022 #46
This, all of this vercetti2021 May 2022 #47
Thank you. I have my moments IngridsLittleAngel May 2022 #48
Oh, DUers LOOOOOOVE Johnny Depp obamanut2012 May 2022 #57
Thank you IngridsLittleAngel May 2022 #58
I actually had decided to leave obamanut2012 May 2022 #49
I agree vercetti2021 May 2022 #53
I want to speak openly about the pain and suffering being caused here... I want it to be seen... IngridsLittleAngel May 2022 #56
Widowed in 1994 lambchopp59 May 2022 #59
I'm so sorry.. And something I understand all too well IngridsLittleAngel May 2022 #60
*sigh* Some things never change... IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #61
Some are more than happy to let their masks slide off now too IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #62
3 days since my last post... IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #63
Of course vercetti2021 Jun 2022 #64
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