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5. That article had some truly eye popping statements
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 08:10 AM
Oct 31

What fucking century do these guys live in?

Some of the defense lawyers have proposed that what happened in Mazan was not a rape but rather an elaborate “libertine game” orchestrated by Dominique Pélicot, to which his wife consented while pretending to be asleep. As one of the men on trial has put it, the husband’s consent appeared sufficient: “It’s his wife; he does what he wants with her.” Another defendant insisted his actions could not be rape: “I don’t have the heart of rapist…For me, rape is catching someone on the street.”
These arguments have highlighted the perplexing fact that the definition of rape in French law does not mention consent. Rape was traditionally seen as a crime against the honor of a woman’s family, against her father or husband, rather than a violation of her own dignity.


Seriously wtf? How dated is this shit? A crime against the honor of the woman’s family? Crime against the father or husband? When was this shit even drafted? How is consent by the woman not the primary if not only factor? Clear, unambiguous and explicit consent at that?

Good fucking god. It is shocking that these bloody dated laws exist apparently on every part of the planet. In India for instance I think it was only in 2022 (at least the article I saw was from 2022) they got rid of the infamous 2-finger test. And India has pretty progressive abortion laws so inspite of a lot of violence against women, there has also been progress legally wrt women’s rights. And China has had its own MeToo recently.

This shit needs to go away in every part of the world.

Bloody barbaric…
Good for Gisele. She is fucking awesome.

But systems also have to offer women the opportunity to fight back against this stuff anonymously.

You shouldn’t have to sacrifice your anonymity because of someone else’s predatory crimes. It is not about shame. Some people are naturally very protective of their privacy. I post here frequently about privacy because it is important to me. That is why I am here and not on social media. I am pretty introverted irl.

It adds a layer of added violation when women cannot have control over their own privacy in order to be safe from predatory and harassing men. It should be up to the victim whether to give up their anonymity or not. And the victim should not have to undergo more violation and stress to prove there was a crime. There are other ways in which due process can take place.

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