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19. Of course there's a link between organized religion and the suppression of women
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jan 2012

And you've identified a big piece of it.

I think it may have been The Chalice and the Blade (Riane Eisler) or perhaps The Creation of Patriarchy (Gerda Lerner) that talked about the overthrow of ALL the goddesses and "reinterpretation" of the creation stories so that we had such impossibilities as Athena springing fully grown from Zeus's head and other atroicities. But it happened across a lot of cultures. Both are good reads.

As someone who also grew up Catholic and still very spiritually-oriented, when I opened Lerner's second book, The Creation of Feminist Consciousness: From the Middle Ages to Eighteen-seventy which tracks Patriarchy from the point she left off, I was so thunderstruck with her revelation that all her studies and research revealed that the main preoccupation of women was a spiritual one, trying real damned hard not to be so "other" as to be excluded from heaven and other spiritual considerations -- and I don't remember exactly what she said or how she phrased it -- but I closed the book, literally unable to read further. The thought still affects me profoundly all these years later.

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lol. he/she... people/person.... i hear ya. seabeyond Jan 2012 #1
I was using 'he' and someone said redqueen Jan 2012 #2
Well, 'they' and 'it' are always wrong when referring to a single person. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #5
I use s/he usually, Lunacee2012 Jan 2012 #7
Please do. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #10
The first time I noticed this usage Whisp Feb 2012 #33
This makes the most sense to me... redqueen Jan 2012 #13
this was discussed a bit on the old board iverglas Jan 2012 #3
You'd think with as much extra work that this causes redqueen Jan 2012 #4
I'm pretty sure it's pronounced noamnety Jan 2012 #16
I might have had too many shots of tequila when I thought of this, CrispyQ Jan 2012 #6
About taking the "he" out of "she" Lunacee2012 Jan 2012 #8
For all my anti-religious experiences, I never linked my 'he out of she' ideas to religion. Yet, CrispyQ Jan 2012 #18
Of course there's a link between organized religion and the suppression of women Remember Me Jan 2012 #19
i would ask boys... what does that make adam, that he was so weak to do as told and why seabeyond Jan 2012 #20
Thank you for that minute of beyond. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #24
No apologies needed. Lunacee2012 Jan 2012 #21
I love it! redqueen Jan 2012 #11
What took you so long? Sera_Bellum Jan 2012 #9
Grammar Nazi here... redqueen Jan 2012 #12
+1 n/t Sera_Bellum Jan 2012 #14
When you stated a few weeks ago that male is the default, CrispyQ Jan 2012 #15
YAY! :waves back: nt Feldspar Jan 2012 #17
Good idea. Neoma Jan 2012 #22
I'm taking to it like a fish to water! redqueen Jan 2012 #23
I've been doing that for 20 years, and it still makes me smile. Zorra Jan 2012 #25
I did this today. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #26
what an awesome idea! xmas74 Jan 2012 #27
I've done this with my class a couple of times this semester - it creates petronius Feb 2012 #28
I think that's a great idea. I'm thinking about MineralMan Feb 2012 #29
Its both obvious and logical....rougly 51 women are born for every 49 men... Rowdyboy Feb 2012 #30
These GUYS are working on you finding out otherwise. WingDinger Feb 2012 #31
I usually go with s/he when typing kdmorris Feb 2012 #32
If you're going to pick one or the other, that would be the way to go. iris27 Feb 2012 #34
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