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iverglas

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27. no, the other way around is important

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:27 PM

Feb 2012

It is possible to be racist -- to believe in the inferiority of a particular racial group, or to hate members of that group -- and not be a racialist, i.e. not advocate different treatment in the public sphere or the private sector based on race.

Ditto for misogyny: it is possible to believe in the inferiority of women / hate women and not advocate unequal pay, etc.

Whether it's possible to be sexist and not misogynist ... sure. Just like it's possible to be anti-choice and not give a damn about fetuses. Policies that oppress and discriminate against women can be advocated for reasons having nothing to do with beliefs about women, and purely for the usual reasons why any group wants to maintain control over other groups: profit and privilege, generally.

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Host duties: [View all] Texasgal Feb 2012 OP

I think this is a great thread to have in concert with the election thread. boston bean Feb 2012 #1

Reasonable? LOL, I'm wondering who will serve on the Search committee and what Remember Me Feb 2012 #11

Thanks for starting this thread, Texasgal! Lisa D Feb 2012 #2

Thanks ladies! Texasgal Feb 2012 #3

1)Facilitating discussion. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #4

Excellent idea! Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #5

and actually voted in by the group. nt boston bean Feb 2012 #6

Agreed. Texasgal Feb 2012 #7

1) Basic understanding of the statement of purpose. 2) Awareness of which kind of content is not BlueIris Feb 2012 #8

Showing up is a big deal. xmas74 Feb 2012 #9

Blue Iris, I can understand your reasoning for #5 boston bean Feb 2012 #10

I've gone back and forth a lot about whether discussion of blocks is beneficial or not. BlueIris Feb 2012 #12

when redqueen left, i put a thread in host forum asking for suggestions, how others seabeyond Feb 2012 #13

That's why I suggested upthread Lisa D Feb 2012 #14

i am now hearing the argument from people that do not participate on this forum seabeyond Feb 2012 #15

I truly understand this sentiment boston bean Feb 2012 #16

you contacted me by PM to ask that a certain poster iverglas Feb 2012 #20

I contacted you by PM because I didn't know who the main host was anymore. BlueIris Feb 2012 #44

hey.... i went after the same man on that oh so evil forum, myself. hence me saying, seabeyond Feb 2012 #47

Again, for the record, because my "disclose the reasons" post caused some confusion: BlueIris Feb 2012 #50

it is simple blueiris and nothing nefarious about it. the pm system allows one pm at a time. seabeyond Feb 2012 #51

I can't agree that it was insignificant. BlueIris Feb 2012 #53

are the other hosts having threads in the host forum about blocking posters? i havent seen any. seabeyond Feb 2012 #54

I still don't see why, and don't think it should have happened off site. BlueIris Feb 2012 #56

Maybe you could go into the hosts forum and ask that question. Lisa D Feb 2012 #57

to be clear, when we were first host before this stuff, i did go in there and start a thread seabeyond Feb 2012 #58

and a reply to the other part of your post. i get what you are asking for. i think it is a good seabeyond Feb 2012 #52

If there is going to be private discussion among hosts about banning people Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #17

Yes, yes, and yes! n/t Lisa D Feb 2012 #18

what needs to be clear? iverglas Feb 2012 #25

All I want is for the hosts to say, "This is why we did it. This rule was broken, etc." BlueIris Feb 2012 #46

Well - it seems to me there would not be such a ruckus now Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #59

we were just starting setting things up, like a day or two while the shit seabeyond Feb 2012 #60

That's why I'm suggesting looking ahead to make better plans Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #61

hey ms seabeyond Feb 2012 #62

facilitating discussion, making people who are feminists feel welcome and not bullied La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #19

I think those are good suggestions and are important for boston bean Feb 2012 #22

redqueen iverglas Feb 2012 #21

I think all issues women face are important boston bean Feb 2012 #23

What is your understanding of those terms? Remember Me Feb 2012 #24

I think people can be sexists and not necessarily a misogynist. boston bean Feb 2012 #26

no, the other way around is important iverglas Feb 2012 #27

Wow, here we are having a conversation boston bean Feb 2012 #29

forgive me if I have to run away now ;) iverglas Feb 2012 #32

surgery too?? That sucks!!!! boston bean Feb 2012 #35

can we have a video of the surgery procedure, please? nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #37

LOL! Texasgal Feb 2012 #39

Nah, just let her upload it to the secret site where everyone can see it Remember Me Feb 2012 #42

i wanted to seabeyond Feb 2012 #64

Please do not hold a standard Texasgal Feb 2012 #30

interesting iverglas Feb 2012 #31

I will be realy honest here. boston bean Feb 2012 #34

edit... cause i thought it was another thread. ya. lol. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #36

I just realize that I may Texasgal Feb 2012 #38

Good on you! boston bean Feb 2012 #40

ya, well, read my first edit before i edited. kinda said just that seabeyond Feb 2012 #41

I agree. We have to be able to be ourselves. boston bean Feb 2012 #43

i agree. hence the editing, lol. seabeyond Feb 2012 #45

and the thing is texasgal, when we dont get it, we dont. that is the reality of it seabeyond Feb 2012 #33

Hmmm, I suppose you could be right Remember Me Feb 2012 #48

SILENCE CONDONES. seabeyond Feb 2012 #49

I am fighting sexism and misogyny every single day. boston bean Feb 2012 #55

5. be trustworthy ... DON'T share private conversations between hosts, outside of the host group. Scout Feb 2012 #28

Another one to add.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #63