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MadameButterfly

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24. its about the soil
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 07:47 AM
Mar 28

I have a hard time comparing now and then, too hard to remember, but i think you are right. We have been degrading soil for centuries and bringing it back takes time and dedication.

Look up the book: Dirt: The Erosion of Civilizations by David Montgomery
For millenia civilizations have exhausted nutrients in soil and been forced to move on to new land to grow food. This has been happening since agriculture began about 15,000 years ago. We no longer have new land to move to, and a return to hunter/gatherer is not an option. We have to learn how to take care of the soil.

A small percentage of our farms have begun to do that. There have even been some government subsidies for farmers to transition to organic, but not nearly enough. I expect that will end under Trump. But it is hardly even a news story, ever. The issue got Congress' attention after a cloud of dust turned the air black in Washington D.C. during the Dust Bowl era, causing some reforms but not nearly enough. We are slowly starving ourselves of nutrients.

Organic standards aren't being upheld since the government took over policing them. Organizations like "Real Organic" are trying to fix that. Farms who sign up as members uphold the original organic standards. We can be consumer members for $100/year to support them and learn more about what they are doing and connect to suppliers. I haven't seen anything labelled as Real Organic in a grocery store yet, so I buy organic at the farmer's market as much as possible.

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is it me or are fruits just not as tasty as they used to be Skittles Mar 27 #1
Most fruits ive had have been either tasteless Figarosmom Mar 28 #4
takes me back! Skittles Mar 28 #12
The quality of produce, like the quality of meat, has really dropped. Soils are depleted of nutrients highplainsdem Mar 28 #8
Anyone who has had a garden MadameButterfly Mar 28 #9
I do get some from a farmers market Skittles Mar 28 #21
its about the soil MadameButterfly Mar 28 #24
interesting, I had not heard about that.....thanks Skittles Mar 28 #28
Don't know if this applies I_UndergroundPanther Mar 27 #2
It depends where you shop. LisaM Mar 28 #16
ooh I have noticed that too! Skittles Mar 28 #29
I grow heirloom veggies Figarosmom Mar 28 #3
You make a good point GardenGnome Mar 28 #6
The same with Figarosmom Mar 28 #7
Oh! I thought it was just me noticing that mwmisses4289 Mar 28 #11
Thanks GardenGnome Mar 28 #15
My experience GardenGnome Mar 28 #5
This is not possible as we are being forced into tiny apartments. LisaM Mar 28 #18
The modern world isn't designed for living off the land. GardenGnome Mar 28 #20
We don't have a balcony. In hindsight, that should have been a priority. LisaM Mar 28 #23
That's a really good point GardenGnome Mar 28 #27
The housing they throw up is all short term. LisaM Mar 28 #30
Individual gardens just aren't practical for everybody MadameButterfly Mar 28 #25
I used to love broccoli. My favorite vegetable. But since I had COVID last winter, I can't eat it. C Moon Mar 28 #10
I think the use of pesticides has played a big role nuxvomica Mar 28 #13
A number of things are contributing mwmisses4289 Mar 28 #14
We can thank Monsanto for that RainCaster Mar 28 #19
Quantity over quality BidenRocks Mar 28 #17
It's the soil. no_hypocrisy Mar 28 #22
Does anyone know if the situation is better in Europe? RockCreek Mar 28 #26
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