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JayhawkSD

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7. There is a big difference between what I see in myself and what I see in others.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:29 AM
Feb 2018
"I see the same delusion, denial, rationalization, minimization, etc. in trumpers."

When I see those things in myself it is called self examination and or self realization. When I see them in others it is called judgement, and is a very different thing.

You do not see it in them, because you are not inside their minds. You see someone who disagrees with you and you judge them to be guilty of "delusion, denial, rationalization, minimization, etc" because they disagree with you, not because you can actually seen those mechanisms at work inside their heads.

The proclivity to judge others, to endlessly declare that others are wrong and that I know what is right, is very much a major component of the disease of addiction. In the 36 years that I have been in recovery I have seen this aspect justified, and downplayed by people who said they could continue to judge others and claim universal knowledge, and I have seen the vast majority of them bite the dust.

You may be able to stay sober knowing that you know what is right and that anyone who disagrees with you is in "delusion, denial, rationalization, minimization, etc," but my experience suggests that the odds are against you.

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Thanks! irisblue Feb 2018 #1
Great post, and thank you for cilla4progress Feb 2018 #2
Well said. Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2018 #4
I buried my best friend at 45 SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #3
"...even though I really don't think there was anything I could have done that would have worked." Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2018 #5
The line between fear and rage is very thin - fear leads to rage. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #6
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So cool. cilla4progress Feb 2018 #13
Yep. Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2018 #15
There is a big difference between what I see in myself and what I see in others. JayhawkSD Feb 2018 #7
We will have to agree to disagree, my friend. (N/T). Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2018 #8
thanks old timer Backwoodsrider Feb 2018 #11
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"Every day on the news Trump helps me see my character defects in another person" Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2018 #12
I'm afraid they will turn on us - cilla4progress Feb 2018 #14
It's hard for me, sometimes, to not take trumpers inventory. Woman in the Mirror. irisblue Feb 2018 #16
Not an addict but gibraltar72 Feb 2018 #17
Ah geez🤦‍♀️ irisblue Feb 2018 #18
"...a growing awareness something was terribly wrong..." Iggo Mar 2018 #19
Yep. He is also a "higher power" of sorts to them JDC Mar 2018 #20
I've heard people in the program refer to non-alcoholics as "normies," as in normal people. Comatose Sphagetti Mar 2018 #21
IME Many people who don't go to any meetings really raccoon Jul 2018 #23
One of the most important lessons of the meetings...is ..acceptance... Stuart G May 2018 #22
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