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HereSince1628

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12. As I said I'm not against bravery, I'm not for cowardice.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:14 AM
Oct 2013

I rather doubt such a strict dichotomy could stand much critical scrutiny.

Regarding biological connections to personality traits, it's common to think that genetic expression is only a matter of having particular sequential patterns in nucleotides inherited from parents. But, things aren't that simple.

For example, epigenetic events--chemical alterations to DNA by methylations, phosphorylation, etc, which are personal acquisitions, also alter what RNA is transcribed and what protein segments get tailored and sewn together, and the subset of stuff that's actually dong work is quite different in composition from what's possibly produced by DNA within chromosomes.

Molecular biologists are really in the early days of understanding how being exposed to environmental conditions/stimulus might alter mechanisms of cellular function to create different capacities of cellular receptivity and response, and collectively variations in tissue/organ structure and function. Neurobiologists' trail behind that vanguard. What is clear is that organisms are not mechanisms solely defined by the DNA blueprint their parents gift them.

I understand that the content of your post is an expression of your personal experience.

My point is really more general, and on the nature of "what is supportive?" As I've written in this group many times...support is a tricky thing, yet, understanding support is an underlying requisite of this group.

My reply is in this thread because it is a reaction to the subject line of your post--which calls out to others to talk about their bravery relative to mental illness. Your subject line communicates an expectation that stories of bravely confronting mental illness are out there among readers of this group. That is an expectation about shared experience--the stuff of culture.

Our culture has all manner of vernacular knowledge about what's good or bad for the ill, mentally and otherwise, and derivations on those rules that serve as standards of performance about how to acceptably conform while ill. Being patient, hopeful, brave etc are such expectations.

If you look over the history of posts/replies in this group, you'll see both affirming expressions to conformity to cultural expectation and histories wherein apparent attempts to manifest conformity to expectations became painful sources of distress.

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Great question. I don't think many "normal" people understand just how hard this is. Denninmi Oct 2013 #1
Thank you for the amazing post, Denninmi. Tobin S. Oct 2013 #2
Ah, I just call 'em like I see 'em. Denninmi Oct 2013 #3
The best advice I ever got but only started taking recently Tobin S. Oct 2013 #4
Checked myself in. Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #6
Can I ask you a couple of ?'s. Denninmi Oct 2013 #7
I believed it would help. Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #9
Yes, thank you. Denninmi Oct 2013 #10
re the iron fist Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #13
You are a "class act all around." hunter Oct 2013 #19
Bravery seems a fine quality, the expectation that the ill display it? Maybe not HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #11
As I said I'm not against bravery, I'm not for cowardice. HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #16
Sort of, though I'm questioning uncritical acceptance of culturally defined 'good' things HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #20
Most of my life I've been a dysfuntional person in normal society. hunter Oct 2013 #21
Generally speaking, many of us would expect mentally ill to not conform to cultural expectations HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #22
There's clearly an autistic sort of *something* from one of my grandfathers... hunter Oct 2013 #23
Hunter, I think a lot of what you said is spot on. Denninmi Oct 2013 #24
I've never been brave. That's what it feels like to me. hunter Oct 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #17
Thank you. hunter Oct 2013 #18
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