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HereSince1628

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22. Generally speaking, many of us would expect mentally ill to not conform to cultural expectations
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:21 AM
Oct 2013

with regard to one or more of the following--behavior, emotionality or cognition.

However, deviance, and the dysfunctional social reactions that it attracts, IS NOT a sufficient criteria for a mental illness dx. IMO (and that of U.S. and E.U. psychiatric professionals) one must be extremely careful about advancing deviance from cultural norms as sufficient evidence to warrant any dx of mental disorder.

Without such care, societies risk using dx's to commit crimes against humanity...sentencing legitimate social critics and political opponents, and those merely eccentric, to confinement in institutions--as has been done in various totalitarian regimes last century.

One of the truly important questions to be considered about specific mental illnesses is whether or not a condition appears to be independent of culture vs whether it is restricted to a specific culture. Although belief itself is to some extent an artifact of culture, there seems to be concurrence among researchers that observation of an identical 'condition' across varying cultures is important evidence supporting the notion that the said condition is 'empirically real' and not an artifact of culture/subculture.

I think it's important to remember that both culture and mental illness are like colored lenses that cannot help but limit (and potentially distort) significant portions of the spectrum of light that we depend upon to illuminate our consideration and behavior.





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Great question. I don't think many "normal" people understand just how hard this is. Denninmi Oct 2013 #1
Thank you for the amazing post, Denninmi. Tobin S. Oct 2013 #2
Ah, I just call 'em like I see 'em. Denninmi Oct 2013 #3
The best advice I ever got but only started taking recently Tobin S. Oct 2013 #4
Checked myself in. Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #6
Can I ask you a couple of ?'s. Denninmi Oct 2013 #7
I believed it would help. Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #9
Yes, thank you. Denninmi Oct 2013 #10
re the iron fist Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #13
You are a "class act all around." hunter Oct 2013 #19
Bravery seems a fine quality, the expectation that the ill display it? Maybe not HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #11
As I said I'm not against bravery, I'm not for cowardice. HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #14
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Sort of, though I'm questioning uncritical acceptance of culturally defined 'good' things HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #20
Most of my life I've been a dysfuntional person in normal society. hunter Oct 2013 #21
Generally speaking, many of us would expect mentally ill to not conform to cultural expectations HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #22
There's clearly an autistic sort of *something* from one of my grandfathers... hunter Oct 2013 #23
Hunter, I think a lot of what you said is spot on. Denninmi Oct 2013 #24
I've never been brave. That's what it feels like to me. hunter Oct 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Tobin S. Oct 2013 #17
Thank you. hunter Oct 2013 #18
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