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branford

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37. The "ignoring gun violence" claim is particularly offensive.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:44 PM
Sep 2015

Over the last few decades, millions of more firearms have been added to circulation and carry and other similar restrictions eliminated or lessened, all while crime, including gun crime, has been substantially reduced.

Moreover, few notable gun rights advocates support elimination of restrictions on ownership of firearms by felons, the violently mentally ill, domestic abusers, etc. In fact, most gun rights advocates support improvements in the system to ensure these types of people never procure weapons, as well other laws like increasing the sentences for those who facilitate straw purchases or engage in crime involving firearms. Legislation that could improve current systems are rejected, not because of firearm rights supporters, but because they don't meet the wish lists of gun control proponents. I and other gun rights supporters have no intention of taking the blame for the lack of effective law enforcement or failure to improve current firearm regulations because gun control advocates repeatedly choose to make the perfect the enemy of the good.

However, refusing to ignore due process, equal protection, privacy, security in our homes and persons, the right of self-defense, etc., to say nothing of the Second Amendment itself, does not constitute"ignoring gun violence." I will not surrender fundamental constitutional rights, well beyond the Second Amendment, for new gun laws that do not address the problems and effectively seek to punish tens of millions of law-abiding and peaceful gun owners due to the criminal actions a very tiny percentage of Americans.

http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/PDF-News/nij-gun-policy-memo.pdf

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Nothing against him, but why start a thread on what someone else thinks? n/t Dawgs Sep 2015 #1
We have a small but vocal contingent that come here to tell us we don't belong on DU hack89 Sep 2015 #2
Problem is, the poster referenced actually thinks he speaks for all Democrats DonP Sep 2015 #3
In large part because of the "purity" of those "real Democrats," branford Sep 2015 #17
And the 2016 Presidential looks to be shaping up like 2014 because the presumed candidate has -57% leveymg Sep 2015 #27
I'd like to think you're correct... beevul Sep 2015 #16
The sine qua non of gun control/prohibition is elite positioning... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #25
I think Skinner realizes lots of folks here have a pretty narrow view of the 2A. ileus Sep 2015 #4
Sad day when a democrat Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #5
I agree SecularMotion Sep 2015 #6
Then work to change the GD SoP and stop complaining DonP Sep 2015 #7
So true Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #9
It is easier to complain, than to do anything real. n/t oneshooter Sep 2015 #11
But there is a designated place on the forum for them Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #8
When was the last sarisataka Sep 2015 #10
All forums ,exept the one he hosts.n/t oneshooter Sep 2015 #12
Looks like they killed off another Gun Con"Troll" sock puppet DonP Sep 2015 #13
Whatever happened to sarisataka Sep 2015 #14
Just guessing, but probably TS'd by MIRT DonP Sep 2015 #15
Was it that guy from Italy again??? ileus Sep 2015 #23
Could have been. The songs were the same. N/T DonP Sep 2015 #24
VOLARE! Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #26
I'd say... Kang Colby Sep 2015 #18
Think of it this way ... DonP Sep 2015 #19
"pure" ??? discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #20
Yup, if they have their way, that's the model to follow - but without the nice furniture DonP Sep 2015 #21
I agree. Kang Colby Sep 2015 #22
In my book being a Dem and upaloopa Sep 2015 #28
There are few gun owners on DU that don't support gun control to some degree or another hack89 Sep 2015 #29
I not going to try and restrict views on DU. upaloopa Sep 2015 #30
But as my OP shows, there are some that are trying to restrict views. hack89 Sep 2015 #31
Using names like "radical controllers" is the pot upaloopa Sep 2015 #33
On par with "gun humpers" and "ammosexuals"? hack89 Sep 2015 #35
Ok. beevul Sep 2015 #32
I am not laying it at their feet. What I do lay at upaloopa Sep 2015 #34
Maybe you aren't. But there sure are alot who do. beevul Sep 2015 #36
The "ignoring gun violence" claim is particularly offensive. branford Sep 2015 #37
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