Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Bloomberg Spends $764,232.35 Buying Oregon Background Check Bill [View all]jimmy the one
(2,720 posts)6/2013: In an interview, Mr. Begich, who faces re-election next year, said he was unbowed by the threat of a Bloomberg-led attack. Indeed, he seemed to almost relish the thought of one. “In Alaska, having a New York mayor tell us what to do? The guy who wants to ban Big Gulps?” Mr. Begich asked incredulously. “If anything, it might help me,” http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/nyregion/bloomberg-urges-no-gifts-to-democrats-who-blocked-gun-bill.html
Begich himself said that Bloomberg's 'opposition' would IF ANYTHING, be as much likely to help his campaign, not hurt it. Kiss of death & all that.
sarisatak: I voted for Amy Klobuchar- Extend the ban on assault weapons. (Jan 2006)
Voted YES on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets. (Apr 2013)
friendly_iconoclast-- I voted for Ed Markey and Liz Warren, both quite vocal gun control supporters
Let me guess. Sarisatak is from Minnesota, icon from Massachusetts. Is Shannon Watts from Alaska? Arkansas?
Do you both actually believe Shannon Watts or MDA contributed to Begich's republican opponent who also had an A rating from nra & rec'd contributions over 100k from nra? Rob pro gun peter to pay pro gun paul?
Do you both actually believe Watts or MDA contributed to democrat Pryor's opponent? when Pryor had a C- nra rating while repub cotton had a 92% rating?
sarisatak: .. a group that supports Democratic candidates and principles would have stayed out of the race. A single issue group will step in and people who are single issue voters will place that issue over political allegiance and support the group regardless of secondary consequences.
Did MDA ever say to democrat voters to vote for republicans Cotton or Sullivan? No. MDA withheld support for the two democrats who voted against MDA's very principles, which is MDA's prerogative. MDA was under NO obligation to support begich or pryor, either financially or politically. And yes I am & was well aware of the MDA & MAIG merger.
icon's very link, note that begich & pryor are the one who worked AGAINST a democrat position: In a letter sent to Cindy Horn the groups urged her to cancel the fundraiser, or, in the alternative, that they instead raise funds for Senate candidates in tough races who voted for the background checks, including Landrieu (D-La.), Hagan (D-N.C.), Shaheen (D-N.H.) Udall (D-Colo.)... wrote to Horn that “when Senators from far-flung places come to California to fuel their campaigns, we hope that you will remind them that you’re not their personal ATM. You have a right to ask why they deserve their support. “In particular, you have every right to ask why they helped a Republican minority defeat a Democratic majority and a Democratic president and vice president who worked their heart out on this chance for reform — which may not come again for years.”
sari: I will freely oppose and condemn any "pro-gun" group that tries to unseat them because I support them as Democrats.
How much did you two gun enthusiasts contribute to the Alaskan campaign of Begich? the Arkansas campaign of Pryor? Did you two oppose the recall election in Colorado where two dems were recalled & replaced by repubs? pls link.
As money and national attention poured into Colorado .. the races became a symbol of the nation’s bitter fight over gun control, with one side bolstered by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York and the other by {NRA}... gun-control advocates far outspent their opponents. A range of philanthropists, liberal political groups, unions and activists raised a total of $3 million to defend Mr. Morse and Ms. Giron. Mr. Bloomberg personally gave $350,000.
Mayor Bloomberg, in a sharp escalation in the battle over gun control, is seeking to punish Democratic senators by taking away the one thing they most need from New Yorkers: money. Mr. Bloomberg will send a personal letter to hundreds of the biggest Democratic donors in New York urging them to cut off contributions to the four Democratic senators who helped block a bill in April that would have strengthened background checks on gun purchasers. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/nyregion/bloomberg-urges-no-gifts-to-democrats-who-blocked-gun-bill.html
Well ladeedah, Bloomberg wanted to keep new York money in new York, rather than send it to 4 pro gun red states. I don't blame him a bit, since dems in those 4 states were up against the odds anyway.
So what you say now? you think it OK to donate $2 million to 4 red states rather than keep the money in New York where it would do more good electing democrats?