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jimmy the one

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71. If anything, it might help me - begich
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:37 AM
Sep 2015

6/2013: In an interview, Mr. Begich, who faces re-election next year, said he was unbowed by the threat of a Bloomberg-led attack. Indeed, he seemed to almost relish the thought of one. “In Alaska, having a New York mayor tell us what to do? The guy who wants to ban Big Gulps?” Mr. Begich asked incredulously. “If anything, it might help me,” http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/nyregion/bloomberg-urges-no-gifts-to-democrats-who-blocked-gun-bill.html

Begich himself said that Bloomberg's 'opposition' would IF ANYTHING, be as much likely to help his campaign, not hurt it. Kiss of death & all that.

sarisatak: I voted for Amy Klobuchar- Extend the ban on assault weapons. (Jan 2006)
Voted YES on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets. (Apr 2013)
friendly_iconoclast-- I voted for Ed Markey and Liz Warren, both quite vocal gun control supporters


Let me guess. Sarisatak is from Minnesota, icon from Massachusetts. Is Shannon Watts from Alaska? Arkansas?
Do you both actually believe Shannon Watts or MDA contributed to Begich's republican opponent who also had an A rating from nra & rec'd contributions over 100k from nra? Rob pro gun peter to pay pro gun paul?
Do you both actually believe Watts or MDA contributed to democrat Pryor's opponent? when Pryor had a C- nra rating while repub cotton had a 92% rating?

sarisatak: .. a group that supports Democratic candidates and principles would have stayed out of the race. A single issue group will step in and people who are single issue voters will place that issue over political allegiance and support the group regardless of secondary consequences.

Did MDA ever say to democrat voters to vote for republicans Cotton or Sullivan? No. MDA withheld support for the two democrats who voted against MDA's very principles, which is MDA's prerogative. MDA was under NO obligation to support begich or pryor, either financially or politically. And yes I am & was well aware of the MDA & MAIG merger.

icon's very link, note that begich & pryor are the one who worked AGAINST a democrat position: In a letter sent to Cindy Horn the groups urged her to cancel the fundraiser, or, in the alternative, that they instead raise funds for Senate candidates in tough races who voted for the background checks, including Landrieu (D-La.), Hagan (D-N.C.), Shaheen (D-N.H.) Udall (D-Colo.)... wrote to Horn that “when Senators from far-flung places come to California to fuel their campaigns, we hope that you will remind them that you’re not their personal ATM. You have a right to ask why they deserve their support. “In particular, you have every right to ask why they helped a Republican minority defeat a Democratic majority and a Democratic president and vice president who worked their heart out on this chance for reform — which may not come again for years.”

sari: I will freely oppose and condemn any "pro-gun" group that tries to unseat them because I support them as Democrats.

How much did you two gun enthusiasts contribute to the Alaskan campaign of Begich? the Arkansas campaign of Pryor? Did you two oppose the recall election in Colorado where two dems were recalled & replaced by repubs? pls link.
As money and national attention poured into Colorado .. the races became a symbol of the nation’s bitter fight over gun control, with one side bolstered by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York and the other by {NRA}... gun-control advocates far outspent their opponents. A range of philanthropists, liberal political groups, unions and activists raised a total of $3 million to defend Mr. Morse and Ms. Giron. Mr. Bloomberg personally gave $350,000.

Mayor Bloomberg, in a sharp escalation in the battle over gun control, is seeking to punish Democratic senators by taking away the one thing they most need from New Yorkers: money. Mr. Bloomberg will send a personal letter to hundreds of the biggest Democratic donors in New York urging them to cut off contributions to the four Democratic senators who helped block a bill in April that would have strengthened background checks on gun purchasers. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/nyregion/bloomberg-urges-no-gifts-to-democrats-who-blocked-gun-bill.html

Well ladeedah, Bloomberg wanted to keep new York money in new York, rather than send it to 4 pro gun red states. I don't blame him a bit, since dems in those 4 states were up against the odds anyway.
So what you say now? you think it OK to donate $2 million to 4 red states rather than keep the money in New York where it would do more good electing democrats?




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The anti-gun outlook doesn't give a crap; it's elitist already... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #1
Wonder what he stands to gain from this? What is his ultimate goal. ileus Aug 2015 #2
Just took a look at online Ammo land mag. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #3
Your ignorance of the secondary source, and... beevul Aug 2015 #4
Other than gun issues safeinOhio Aug 2015 #5
If I post about those other things, feel free to call me out on them. beevul Aug 2015 #6
That is his politics, who cares. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #7
Bloomberg is many places besides the East Coast sarisataka Aug 2015 #11
Consult your nearest globe or map. beevul Aug 2015 #13
.fighting to keep a constitutional protected right isn't extreme. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #8
Define 'expanding'. beevul Aug 2015 #9
Cover the sale of all handguns safeinOhio Aug 2015 #10
Somehow, I doubt it would stop there. beevul Aug 2015 #12
I just ignored it when safeinOhio Aug 2015 #14
Thats nice, I ignore irrelevent lines of argument too, like yours. beevul Aug 2015 #15
My gun grabbing buddies? safeinOhio Aug 2015 #16
Wait...me stating the truth, means you struck a nerve? beevul Aug 2015 #17
I have a degree in psy safeinOhio Aug 2015 #18
Theres a difference between namecalling, and describing accurately, many gun control proponents... beevul Aug 2015 #19
LOUD & CLEAR, beevul is LYING jimmy the one Aug 2015 #20
You were alerted on by guess who using the usual passive aggressive alert distortions. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #22
built in bias jimmy the one Aug 2015 #25
Um, blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #26
Um Jimmy, sarisataka Aug 2015 #24
corroborate with a reputable source jimmy the one Aug 2015 #28
I am not twitter savvy sarisataka Aug 2015 #36
verified as bogus? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #37
I posted her resume sarisataka Aug 2015 #38
explain 'this' discrepancy jimmy the one Aug 2015 #30
You explain it. beevul Aug 2015 #31
defunct _by _you jimmy the one Aug 2015 #32
See this post. beevul Aug 2015 #33
shannon 'sez so' is an assertion jimmy the one Aug 2015 #34
Yes. It is. beevul Aug 2015 #35
preponderance of the evidence is for my pov jimmy the one Aug 2015 #39
No. Nonsense is for your POV, and indeed permeates it. beevul Aug 2015 #41
no real evidence whatsoever from beevul jimmy the one Aug 2015 #42
Says the defender of the dishonest antigun org funded by a racist fuckwad. beevul Aug 2015 #43
why is posting far right ideology allowed on DU? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #44
This is the wrong place for that post; you want 'Ask the Administrators', found at... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #45
thanks! for the helpful hint jimmy the one Aug 2015 #46
And thanks in return for *your* helpful hint! I altered the post title #47... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #48
In order to do that, you'd have to lie about me... beevul Aug 2015 #62
Shannon Watts helped to defeat Dems, why are you supporting her at DU? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #47
some democrats - begich & pryor jimmy the one Aug 2015 #49
Ahem. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Gun Control Underground... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #50
height of arrogance jimmy the one Aug 2015 #52
Wow sarisataka Aug 2015 #51
refrain from stupidity please jimmy the one Aug 2015 #53
So what is your point sarisataka Aug 2015 #54
I voted for Ed Markey and Liz Warren, both quite vocal gun control supporters friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #56
more like a kiss of death jimmy the one Sep 2015 #63
Evidence sarisataka Sep 2015 #64
antagonistic rating jimmy the one Sep 2015 #65
If voicing support for sarisataka Sep 2015 #66
funded by independence USA it seems jimmy the one Sep 2015 #68
If it helps you to sleep sarisataka Sep 2015 #69
If anything, it might help me - begich jimmy the one Sep 2015 #71
Democrats were trying sarisataka Sep 2015 #72
"MDA did not work...to get a republican elected" They worked to get Dems *un*-elected... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #70
"MDA did not work against pryor or begich to get a republican elected" Bullshit! friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #67
Refrain from defending people who work against Democrats, please friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #55
Watts did not get *anyone* pro-control elected in those races. Where's the win? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #57
Your're not supposed to notice that sarisataka Aug 2015 #58
Bloomberg won, alright- just not the win his credulous supporters think he wanted friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #59
B-1 sarisataka Aug 2015 #60
You'll call anything you don't agree with 'right wing ideology'. beevul Aug 2015 #61
"background checks on guy buyers. " beergood Sep 2015 #73
The NRA salutes you! Ammoland salutes you! Have you informed Ted Nugent of your brilliance? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #21
spoon feeding jimmy the one Aug 2015 #23
Both Bloomberg and Tom Steyer as billionaires made a difference in Oregon's election in 2014... cascadiance Aug 2015 #29
I helped a bit in passing that law. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #27
Thank you for... virginia mountainman Aug 2015 #40
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