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gejohnston

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21. the suicide number is actually
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:02 PM
Nov 2015

about double the use of guns. The 21K suicides are by gun, add about another 18-20K and you have the total number of suicides.

The gun violence in places like Chicago and Detroit are gangs killing each other, they are not average gun owners going off the deep end. Gangs have no problem getting guns even in Australia where they make their own machine guns. The difference is, many of these countries don't have our failed urban policies like zoning ordinances that discourage walkable neighborhoods and create food and job deserts. They also don't have schools with low literacy rates among the graduates. That is even before we get to the Tammany Hall style corruption, especially in Chicago where things haven't changed since Al Capone was the defacto mayor.

Mass shooters, or mass murderers be they with a gun, sword, homemade flamethrower fit the same profile as suicide bombers.

As a gun owner who wants to continue to possess my gun, I dont want those incapable of having possessing guns to ruin the whole barrel of apples. We can get this accomplished and this can be a non issue.
I completely agree to a point. Even if there were no crimes with guns or suicides the Bloombergs of the world would still do be doing their thing. It is a culture war.

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There's plenty of blame to go around. OregonLiburl Nov 2015 #1
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The weakest links virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #4
Whose responsibility is it to run on issues important to local people? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #5
Prohibition is America's most addictive social policy. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #16
People that don't own gun and don't want to... krispos42 Nov 2015 #6
Do you think most kentucky democrats are pro gun control Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #7
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Single or critical issue voters beardown Nov 2015 #9
Who is talking about gun confiscation? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #10
Hillery Clinton is currently. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #11
Are you saying a buy back program is gun confiscation? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12
It is when it is mandatory. .... virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #13
the Australian "buy back" gejohnston Nov 2015 #14
I am very open to a plan which stops the senseless gun violence, how do you propose stopping Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #15
The problem is with your proposal... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #17
I am interested in stopping gun violence of random shootings, stop the gun violence such as in Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #18
Well, if one side of this debate were interested in prioritizing.. beevul Nov 2015 #19
The suicide number is not always by guns though lots of times it is. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #20
the suicide number is actually gejohnston Nov 2015 #21
I can't say what the Bloombergs would do or say, it seem there are enough sensible gun owners to Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #22
Like I said, gejohnston Nov 2015 #23
Do you not think it is possible to have sensible gun laws with stricter background checks and mental Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #24
Mental health is not the issue gejohnston Nov 2015 #25
Just cant get any reasoning. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #26
The reasoning and facts are there. pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #29
Liberal angst re. "assault weapons" and "gun show loopholes" pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #28
See post #6 NT pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #27
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