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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
23. Like I said,
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:37 PM
Nov 2015

the prohibitionist movement doesn't care, they want complete confiscation, they just have been less honest about it over the past forty years. It wouldn't matter if Roof used a petrol bomb or is Lanza used a black market gun stolen from a police department in a different state like the Port Authur shooter did. Roof used illegal drugs, he was caught with cocaine among other things. Doesn't matter where you are in the world, if you can get a bag of pot or some cocaine, you can get a gun. Even in Japan, and especially in Europe. Just ask Charlie Hebdo and the Kosher Deli. Yeah, you can get a silencer in a French gun store just as easy we can buy a box of shells, but not machine guns.

Every Australian state had a licensing system and half of them had registration. The killer's low IQ and history of violence would have prevented him from getting a license of any kind. Given my understanding of Tasmanian gun laws at the time, if he had a permit, he could have legally bought a semi or full auto.

Sydney went through a year and half period of over 100 drive by shootings. Fortunately, it is almost impossible to hit anything with a SMG, let alone one made in the basement without a rifled barrel in the hands of an untrained Hells Angels member.

Here is the thing about people like Roof, Lanza, or the guy that sprayed SMG rounds into a Stockholm pub, these things are planned out in detail in advance. Lack of weapon A will adjust to weapon B. Or, like the guy in Norway, use bombs and gun. The best thing to do is prevent their creation. No I don't mean mental health registries and video games like La Piere. It isn't a mental health issue. Roof was a creation of an abusive and racist parent. Abusers grow up to be abusers. The guy in Oregon, like Lanza, had no relationship with his father. Maybe there was a good reason for it. Maybe the mother was abusive. No additional gun law will fix the problem.

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There's plenty of blame to go around. OregonLiburl Nov 2015 #1
Welcome to DU. GGJohn Nov 2015 #2
Leadership can not force people to vote. Kentucky had 30% tirnout, you want to know who voted, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #3
The weakest links virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #4
Whose responsibility is it to run on issues important to local people? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #5
Prohibition is America's most addictive social policy. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #16
People that don't own gun and don't want to... krispos42 Nov 2015 #6
Do you think most kentucky democrats are pro gun control Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #7
What does being pro gun have to do with voter turnout? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #8
Single or critical issue voters beardown Nov 2015 #9
Who is talking about gun confiscation? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #10
Hillery Clinton is currently. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #11
Are you saying a buy back program is gun confiscation? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12
It is when it is mandatory. .... virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #13
the Australian "buy back" gejohnston Nov 2015 #14
I am very open to a plan which stops the senseless gun violence, how do you propose stopping Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #15
The problem is with your proposal... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #17
I am interested in stopping gun violence of random shootings, stop the gun violence such as in Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #18
Well, if one side of this debate were interested in prioritizing.. beevul Nov 2015 #19
The suicide number is not always by guns though lots of times it is. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #20
the suicide number is actually gejohnston Nov 2015 #21
I can't say what the Bloombergs would do or say, it seem there are enough sensible gun owners to Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #22
Like I said, gejohnston Nov 2015 #23
Do you not think it is possible to have sensible gun laws with stricter background checks and mental Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #24
Mental health is not the issue gejohnston Nov 2015 #25
Just cant get any reasoning. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #26
The reasoning and facts are there. pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #29
Liberal angst re. "assault weapons" and "gun show loopholes" pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #28
See post #6 NT pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #27
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