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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
25. Mental health is not the issue
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:09 PM
Nov 2015

the mentally ill are actually the least violent among us. We do need mental health screening, but I don't believe stricter background checks will work for two reasons.
if nothing is in the background that shows you are a prohibited person, you pass.
Two, criminals don't go to gun stores or gun shows. That was well known even before NICS.
I think the current moderate controls is the best possible. If bans worked, Brazil, Russia, Costa Rica would not be what they are. Venezuela had door to door confiscations, and they still have the second highest murder rate.

Sensible is a weasel term, it doesn't have any meaning. I think parts of current law is sensible, parts are not. Putting a SBR like an M6 Scout in the same category as a machine gun or mortar is not sensible. That is absurd as putting pot in schedule one with heroin. I'm for amending the current five or six federal gun control laws to be sensible, but not adding new ones. I'm for fixing flaws in NICS without infringing on anyone's rights like the VA adding names to the no buy list with no due process as outlined in the Gun Control Act.

Having the law is one thing. Working as advertised is entirely different. Once the "sensible" gun laws don't work as advertised, the prohibitionists will lie about unregulated guns and demand more. When the complete ban happens and nothing happens at best, or get worse, they will be "good thing we banned guns or it would have been worse." Like I said, it is a culture war, has nothing to do with saving lives.

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There's plenty of blame to go around. OregonLiburl Nov 2015 #1
Welcome to DU. GGJohn Nov 2015 #2
Leadership can not force people to vote. Kentucky had 30% tirnout, you want to know who voted, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #3
The weakest links virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #4
Whose responsibility is it to run on issues important to local people? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #5
Prohibition is America's most addictive social policy. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #16
People that don't own gun and don't want to... krispos42 Nov 2015 #6
Do you think most kentucky democrats are pro gun control Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #7
What does being pro gun have to do with voter turnout? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #8
Single or critical issue voters beardown Nov 2015 #9
Who is talking about gun confiscation? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #10
Hillery Clinton is currently. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #11
Are you saying a buy back program is gun confiscation? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12
It is when it is mandatory. .... virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #13
the Australian "buy back" gejohnston Nov 2015 #14
I am very open to a plan which stops the senseless gun violence, how do you propose stopping Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #15
The problem is with your proposal... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #17
I am interested in stopping gun violence of random shootings, stop the gun violence such as in Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #18
Well, if one side of this debate were interested in prioritizing.. beevul Nov 2015 #19
The suicide number is not always by guns though lots of times it is. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #20
the suicide number is actually gejohnston Nov 2015 #21
I can't say what the Bloombergs would do or say, it seem there are enough sensible gun owners to Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #22
Like I said, gejohnston Nov 2015 #23
Do you not think it is possible to have sensible gun laws with stricter background checks and mental Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #24
Mental health is not the issue gejohnston Nov 2015 #25
Just cant get any reasoning. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #26
The reasoning and facts are there. pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #29
Liberal angst re. "assault weapons" and "gun show loopholes" pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #28
See post #6 NT pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #27
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