Gun Control & RKBA

Travis_0004

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29. Do you think the framers were stupid?

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:17 AM

Dec 2015

They said "yup, nothing will ever be invented ever again".

They realized there would be changes. They knew they could not anticipate every possible change, so they included a way to repeal and change the constitution.

Also, the first 20 round magazine existed about 10 years before the bill of rights. It was used by lewis and clark a few years later.

If you dont like the second amendment, go gather some petitions and start work on getting it repealed.

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I want a gun with some... [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 OP

I think we have to distinguish between upaloopa Dec 2015 #1

I certainly can't fault you for that. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #2

These are the weapons the Framers had in mind when COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #3

The framers never conceived the Internet. JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #4

OK. So? COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #7

Those rifles can also be looked upon as... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #5

Yep. State of the art for 1787 COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #8

same as that printing press Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #11

But no assault quill pens! friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #14

or high-capacity inkwells. nt branford Dec 2015 #19

No one needs more than ten fluid drams of ink! friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #20

No not "state of the art" for that time period. oneshooter Dec 2015 #39

you'll notice that no incarnation, version or derivation... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #6

Just as the only words protected by the 1st amendment Big_Mike Dec 2015 #10

yes they do indeed Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #12

Really silly comparison. Those abound. COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #13

You want one amendment to be 'locked in time'-but not the rest... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #16

The only purpose of the Second Amendment was COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #17

Then get it repealed. The means to do so exists, finding enough votes to do so is up to you: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #18

Not necessary. Hopefully with a Democratic victory COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #23

You mean just like this Conservative court has reversed the ACA and Roe v Wade? DonP Dec 2015 #24

These things take time. Don't for second bet that Roe v Wade COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #25

I hope you're working on the party platform and the White House too DonP Dec 2015 #26

Our party leaders, including the President are no more immune COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #27

What happens if Congress and/or individual states don't go along? Roe v Wade is being eroded as we.. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #30

I'm no lawyer, so I don't know how many unanimous opinions are overturned Big_Mike Dec 2015 #31

This wasn't a unanimous decision. Stevens in his dissent makes it clear that COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #33

I would say that the only Presidents who did not overreach in recent times Big_Mike Dec 2015 #34

Both Justice Stevens and Justice Breyer explicitly state that it is an individual right Big_Mike Dec 2015 #35

big mike spreads misinformation jimmy the one Dec 2015 #36

I reiterate - I am not a lawyer. I have never been trained to think legalistically. I only repeat Big_Mike Dec 2015 #38

Interesting article about it here COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #37

So since the Russians have AK's do the framers still want us to use Muzzleloaders? ileus Dec 2015 #21

Absolutely unassailable arguments whose clarity is COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #22

Do you think the framers were stupid? Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #29

Has the organization you believe is the current "well regulated militia"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #40

I've always enjoyed firing black powder weapons. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #9

Agreed-they are noisy, smokey, and a pain in the ass to clean and maintain-but fun friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #15

I have all 6 of those all in good working order... Historic NY Dec 2015 #28

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