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Gun Control & RKBA

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SecularMotion

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 02:40 PM Dec 2015

Guns and Racism [View all]

Those of us in favor of stronger laws to abate gun violence mostly support our cause by arguing against the claims of the gun lobby (roughly, the N.R.A. and gun manufacturers). It should by now be obvious that this is a waste of time. The case for action is overwhelming, but there’s no chance of convincing the entrenched minority who are so personally (or financially) invested in gun ownership. Legislative efforts have failed because the opposition is more deeply committed — more energized, more organized, more persistent.

My purpose here is not to continue arguing with the gun lobby or even to discuss the precise form that new gun legislation should take. Instead, I’m interested in understanding the intensity gap and how we might overcome it. Only when there’s a sustained passion against gun violence will there be a meaningful chance of effective action.

It might seem that fear of gun violence is the great motivator. Pro-gun advocates see guns as our best defense against armed criminals. Anti-gun advocates see the wide availability of guns as a greater threat than criminal violence. The issue seems to come down to what you fear more: criminals or guns.

But the passion of the gun lobby goes much deeper than fear of criminals. As Firmin DeBrabander’s excellent book, “Do Guns Make Us Free?” demonstrates, the basic motivation of the pro-gun movement is freedom from government interference. They talk about guns for self-defense, but their core concern is their constitutional right to bear arms, which they see as the foundation of American freedom. The right to own a gun is, as the N.R.A. website puts it, “the right that protects all other rights.” Their galvanizing passion is a hatred of tyranny. Like many other powerful political movements, the gun lobby is driven by hatred of a fundamental evil that it sees as a threat to our way of life — an existential threat — quite apart from any specific local or occasional dangers.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/28/guns-and-racism/
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Guns and Racism [View all] SecularMotion Dec 2015 OP
White (of course) citizens were required to carry guns in some guillaumeb Dec 2015 #1
Gun control laws in the South were products of racism... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #22
Agreed on the point of Southern gun control laws. eom guillaumeb Dec 2015 #24
Thanks anyway....I'll remain progressive on all rights. ileus Dec 2015 #2
It's amusing how much gun lovers hate tyranny but they cheer Constitution trampling legislation LonePirate Dec 2015 #3
Straw Man calls foul. Straw Man Dec 2015 #5
LinkS please n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #6
I for one sarisataka Dec 2015 #12
Not only is your claim utter bullshit, it's hypocritical. I'm a host of DU's Civil Liberties Group: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #13
DU gun lovers are nowhere near the norm. The stereotypical gun lover is a Repub. LonePirate Dec 2015 #14
"(S)tereotypical"? Your post is larded with stereotypes: "persecution complex", "impotent" friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #15
I agree all Dems need to be doing more in that regard. LonePirate Dec 2015 #16
I think that the profile of gun owners is changing as we type. beardown Dec 2015 #27
And how some, including the Prez, want to juke around the Fifth Amendment. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #23
The comments are very instructive. Straw Man Dec 2015 #4
"Is the race card really the best one to play here?" DonP Dec 2015 #7
Gun rights are for white people safeinOhio Dec 2015 #8
That's a silly racist comment TeddyR Dec 2015 #9
I think we call it institutional racism. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #10
So let's work to ensure POC can freely exercise their 2A rights. hack89 Dec 2015 #11
Bullshit Puha Ekapi Dec 2015 #17
+100 ^^^ discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #18
I currently live in the middle of safeinOhio Dec 2015 #19
Bet there are more AR's and AK's on the rez than there are bolt rifles... Puha Ekapi Dec 2015 #20
The Newton Gun Club would beg to differ. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #25
The video doesn't lie. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #26
Neither does the video/pics of the Newton Gun Club. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #28
"Intensity gap" and "overcoming" it: Maybe most people don't agree with the banners? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #21
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