December 29, 1890

[jimmy the one]

31. you piqued my interest

I've read both Peter Duffy's book The Bielski Brothers and Nechama Tec's Defiance: The Bielski Partisans. You give me the results of a Google search and then lecture me on what I "need read up on"? Priceless. Absolutely priceless.

I've read Wm Shirer's Rise & Fall of the Third Reich - 3 or 4 times
Alan Bullocks' 'Hitler'. - & partially again - two inch thick 8 x 11
John Keegan's 'Second World War', plus several other wwII books.
'Hitler's Generals', by whomever
Bio's on mussolini, stalin, churchill, trotsky, lenin, to name a few.

straw man: "Could have" resisted? They did resist. They engaged in partisan raids on German forces as well as raiding for food to support the people they had rescued from the ghetto.

You took me out of context & try to narrow my remark, another testament to unethical you.

In context, what I wrote, the full paragraph. Note how straw man cited only the first sentence:
Do you really, seriously think that 400 armed jews in the middle of the nazi wehrmacht stretched from leningrad to moscow to dnieprepetrovsk could've resisted? It wasn't guns which saved those jews, it was the dense forests & swamps where panzers couldn't go, encompassing a fairly large area in western byelorussia which saved them, as well as the ability to blend in with the local populace, remaining & operating covertly, and yes integrating with much larger numbers of partisans

strawman 1:What's "specious" is your suggestion that somehow being unarmed enhanced one's likelihood of survival.
strawman2: Not only did you do it, but in your attempt at a denial you did it again! Classic!

No matter how you fabricate your lies, I did not say that those partisans should've been unarmed during wwII in the Pripyat swamps or the Naliboki Forest. I said their guns did not save them, it was largely conditions.

The four Bielski brothers managed to flee to the nearby forest after their parents {killed} ... The partisans lived in underground dugouts or bunkers.. the Bielski camp; at its peak, 1,236 people belonged, 70% women, children, elderly;..Some accounts note the inequality between well-off partisans and poor inhabitants of the camp ... About 150 engaged in armed operations
.. Nazi regime offered a reward for the capture of Tuvia Bielski, and in 1943, led major clearing operations against all partisan groups in the area. Some of these groups suffered major casualties, but the Bielski partisans fled safely to a more remote part of the forest,

strawman: They did resist. They engaged in partisan raids on German forces as well as raiding for food to support the people they had rescued from the ghetto.

Is this what you refer to? fighting against other non jewish poles in poland? or with stalin against secular polish forces? which to be sure did not care much for jewish people, but were caught between 2 enemy camps (so to speak), the russians & the nazis:

.. the Bielski group would raid nearby villages and forcibly seize food; on occasion, peasants who refused to share their food with the partisans were the subject of violence and even murder. This caused hostility towards the partisans from peasants in the villages, though some would willingly help the Jewish partisans.

The Bielski partisan leaders split the group into two units, one named Ordzhonikidze, led by Zus, and the other Kalinin, commanded by Tuvia. Fighting on the Soviet side, they took part in clashes between Polish and Soviet forces. Notably, they took part in a disarmament of a group of Polish partisans by the Soviets on 1 Dec 1943.[9] According to partisan documentation, the Bielski fighters from both units claimed to have killed a total of 381 enemy fighters, sometimes during joint actions with Soviet groups

Despite their previous collaboration with the Soviets, relations quickly worsened. The NKVD started interrogating the Bielski brothers about the rumours of loot they had reportedly collected during the war, and about their failure to "implement socialist ideals in the camp". Asael Bielski was conscripted into the Soviet Red Army and fell in the Battle of Königsberg in 1945.

Allegations of war crimes - Some of the members of the Bielski partisans (but not the Bielski brothers themselves) have been accused of war crimes on the neighbouring population, particularly for alleged involvement in the 1943 Naliboki massacre of 129 people, committed by Soviet partisans. Though some witnesses and some historians place members of the Bielskis' unit at the massacre, members and other historians dispute this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielski_partisans