December 29, 1890

[Straw Man]

34. Well, that's good.

I've read Wm Shirer's Rise & Fall of the Third Reich - 3 or 4 times
Alan Bullocks' 'Hitler'. - & partially again - two inch thick 8 x 11
John Keegan's 'Second World War', plus several other wwII books.
'Hitler's Generals', by whomever
Bio's on mussolini, stalin, churchill, trotsky, lenin, to name a few.

Good for you. What did they have to say about the Bielski partisans? That was the topic -- remember?

No matter how you fabricate your lies, I did not say that those partisans should've been unarmed during wwII in the Pripyat swamps or the Naliboki Forest. I said their guns did not save them, it was largely conditions.

If their arms "did not save them," then what was the point of the arms? There was none, in your view. Why, then, should they have been armed? I can only conclude that you believe they should not.

You keep harping on the fact that more unarmed Jews survived than armed Jews. What exactly is your point, then?

Lies? Please. You have no standing for that judgement.

You took me out of context & try to narrow my remark, another testament to unethical you.

Unethical? Again, please. The "context" was nothing more than a justification for your rhetorical question, which was "Do you really, seriously think that 400 armed jews in the middle of the nazi wehrmacht stretched from leningrad to moscow to dnieprepetrovsk could've resisted?" Do I think they "could've resisted"? Yes, I do. I can prove it from the historical record: They did resist.

Allegations of war crimes - Some of the members of the Bielski partisans (but not the Bielski brothers themselves) have been accused of war crimes on the neighbouring population, particularly for alleged involvement in the 1943 Naliboki massacre of 129 people, committed by Soviet partisans. Though some witnesses and some historians place members of the Bielskis' unit at the massacre, members and other historians dispute this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielski_partisans

With the benefit of your vast readings on history of the Second World War, is Wikipedia really the best source you could come up with regarding the allegations of misconduct by the Bielskis in their efforts to survive and supply their dependents in the forest community they had created? I would call the threat of genocide a rather pressing exigency, wouldn't you? Perhaps you think it would have been more sporting of them to just lay down their arms and volunteer for the concentration camps.