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tortoise1956

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4. According to another website...
Sun Jan 8, 2017, 02:34 AM
Jan 2017

They do indeed include all homicides in their figures, such as negligent homicides. They also identify a homicide by the resident state of the victim, not the jurisdiction where the homicide was committed:

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ntmh.pdf

I still have issues with this study. Among other things, it counts negligent manslaughter deaths as "homicides". These deaths have nothing at all to do with the SYG law, and thus should not be included in the count. The FBI data, on the other hand, includes murder and non-negligent homicide in its figures, which should be an accurate count of intentional criminal homicides.

The real story here is that the Florida murder rate as defined by the FBI has gone down at approximately the same rate as the United States in general. There is a tendency lately for Florida's rate to be higher than the national average, whereas in the past it had been a little lower. However, with the exception of an uptick in the 2005 - 2007 time frame, the two rates are very close.

(I worked up a quick chart, but I don't know how to paste the chart, or a picture of it, into this post, or even if it can be done. I'll be happy to provide it to anyone who wants to see it. Just PM me.)

Edited to add a link to the chart I built. Enjoy!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/gallery/kuwg0r9TQQGOIYbIIUBK-A



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