Gun Control & RKBA

Buzz cook

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16. I have never heard a convincing argument for the ops point.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:59 AM

Jan 2018

I've read and heard the assertion many times, just never seen an argument with evidence that personal ownership of firearms prevents tyranny.

The American Civil War is an example of a civilian victory being impossible and being put down by over whelming military might. A very significant part of the confederate population was killed as well as many Union soldiers. I don't see this as murder by the government.
(The Confederacy had a larger number of private arms, but it was arms taken from the North and imported from Europe that made up the majority of its arms.)

Arms in the hands of private citizens enforced American slavery. So if we do lose everything, it'll be our friends in the NRA that will be most active in keeping us in our place.

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The RKBA v Tyranny [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 OP

So, if Mueller gets fired, you got plans? Girard442 Jan 2018 #1

Plans? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #2

What are *your* plans in such a case? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2018 #3

Yeah, one helluva job RKBA is doing, combatting the onset of tyranny in the U.S. Paladin Jan 2018 #4

It sounds as if you're saying that pro-RKBA democrats voted for trump discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #5

I stand by my comments. Nothing I can do about your interpretation of them. (nt) Paladin Jan 2018 #6

Everyone has an absolute right to an opinion and to express it discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #7

Best wishes for your weekend as well. (nt) Paladin Jan 2018 #8

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #9

Were I you, I wouldn't elaborate on my comments either, as they raise some inconvenient questions friendly_iconoclast Jan 2018 #11

The US doesn't *quite* have a totally degenerate government (for now, anyway), so... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2018 #10

I live in New Jersey discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #12

They will be after your shoestrings, next... yagotme Jan 2018 #13

If only there was a rich high status individual... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #14

Yep, if a state/local gov't wants to rake in some cash, yagotme Jan 2018 #15

Good post. One of the best in this thread. Alea Feb 2018 #36

I have never heard a convincing argument for the ops point. Buzz cook Jan 2018 #16

Partly because, gejohnston Jan 2018 #17

Sorry but that's revisionist history. Buzz cook Feb 2018 #19

no it isn't gejohnston Feb 2018 #21

There was a positive claim made. Buzz cook Feb 2018 #24

I believe the claim is that gejohnston Feb 2018 #28

There is no negative to prove Buzz cook Feb 2018 #29

re: "...it shows that they lack the ability to engage in the ideas, or doubt the strength..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #35

re: "I have never heard a convincing argument for the ops point." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #18

I'm sure you think you make sense. Buzz cook Feb 2018 #20

Privately-owned firearms damn sure aren't stopping tyranny, right now. Paladin Feb 2018 #22

No you're exactly right. Buzz cook Feb 2018 #26

I always try to make sense and I sometimes succeed discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #23

False Dichotomy. Buzz cook Feb 2018 #25

And where did I say that arms were the only requirement in revolution? discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #27

Quote"I have stated in the past that the individual RKBA is a safeguard against tyranny."unquote Buzz cook Feb 2018 #30

re: "Have fun at work." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #31

churchill's remarks suitable for britons, but not others jimmy the one Feb 2018 #32

Moving the discussion from the U.S. Civil War to WWII? Paladin Feb 2018 #33

okay yeah discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #34

rambling wreck jimmy the one Feb 2018 #37

re: "rambling wreck" agreed, you are discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #38