Gun Control & RKBA

Eko

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6. Here are some specifics for you.

Sun Aug 25, 2019, 06:58 PM

Aug 2019

This is the 44 countries with the lowest murder rate. Next to the countries names are an abbreviated description of their gun rights. If it says yes then they have the right to have guns, may issue or may issue restricted means they have no right to have a gun and the government may issue them if they deem it and restricted means it is heavily regulated. Out of 44 only 1 has the right to have guns and it is more restrictive than our rights. Of course correlation does not imply causation but at least I gave specifics where you just state it is a social problem. Feel free to make that case. You can start with this list of 44 countries with the lowest murder rate and correlate with a social problem. I look forward to seeing the results.

44 Algeria- may issue
43 Nauru- no
42 Cyprus - Shotguns only
41 Slovenia- may issue
40 Sweden- may issue restricted
39 Serbia - may issue restricted
38 Oman- may issue
37 Portugal- may issue
36 Denmark - may issue
35 Morocco- may issue
34 Tonga - may issue restricted
33 Malta - may issue restricted
32 Australia -may issue
31 Croatia - may issue restricted
30 The United Kingdom - may issue, shall issue for shotguns
29 New Zealand- may issue
28 Iceland - may issue
27 Slovakia- may issue restricted
26 Greece- may issue
25 Germany- may issue
24 Italy- yes may issue
23 The Czech Republic – may issue restricted
22 Burkina Faso- may issue restricted
21 Poland- yes may issue restricted
20 Luxembourg- may issue
19 Switzerland – yes well regulated
18 The United Arab Emirates- may issue restricted
17 China- may issue, restricted
16 Korea – no
15 Spain - may issue
14 The Netherlands- may issue
13 Norway- may issue restricted
12 Madagascar- may issue restricted
11 Ireland- may issue
10 Indonesia- may issue restricted
9 Bahrain- may issue restricted
8 Austria- may issue restricted
7 Brunei- may issue restricted
6 Japan- may issue restricted
5 Singapore- may issue restricted.
4 Liechtenstein- may issue restricted
3 San Marino- may issue restricted
2 Monaco- may issue restricted
1 Andorra- may issue restricted
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My links for the data.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/murder-rate-by-country/
https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/switzerland

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Gun-control mistakes [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 OP

I disagree with mistake #4. Eko Aug 2019 #1

sorry you disagree discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #2

Of course a single action revolver can fire faster than a semi auto AR. Eko Aug 2019 #3

Immense apologies discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #4

If I asked you for specifics, do you think you could provide them? krispos42 Aug 2019 #5

Here are some specifics for you. Eko Aug 2019 #6

like I said before, gejohnston Aug 2019 #7

See this. Eko Aug 2019 #8

So? gejohnston Aug 2019 #9

Can you point out where it says that? Eko Aug 2019 #10

right here. gejohnston Aug 2019 #11

Still dont see "special permit" Eko Aug 2019 #12

distiction without a difference gejohnston Aug 2019 #13

No, I go by details. Eko Aug 2019 #14

There is no correlation, gejohnston Aug 2019 #15

Inequality can be a major factor without a doubt, Eko Aug 2019 #16

why? gejohnston Aug 2019 #17

Because you are making the claim. Eko Aug 2019 #18

I provided evidence for income inequality, gejohnston Aug 2019 #20

I showed evidence Eko Aug 2019 #22

Yet you ignored the highest that also have gejohnston Aug 2019 #24

So do the top 50 to disprove me. Eko Aug 2019 #26

nothing can disproven, gejohnston Aug 2019 #31

Ok then, show enough data points to make mine invalid. Eko Aug 2019 #33

you haven't shown yours to be valid. gejohnston Aug 2019 #36

Show the data. Eko Aug 2019 #27

you didn't do shit gejohnston Aug 2019 #29

It acutally took me about an hour to do this. Eko Aug 2019 #32

an hour to do a few links, gejohnston Aug 2019 #34

Actually, there are two links I used Eko Aug 2019 #35

OK, gejohnston Aug 2019 #37

So fucking do it! Eko Aug 2019 #38

I did. gejohnston Aug 2019 #41

So you admit you are just trolling. Eko Aug 2019 #39

no you are. gejohnston Aug 2019 #40

I mean I have already done 2 out of the 3 data points for you. Eko Aug 2019 #19

why should I? gejohnston Aug 2019 #23

Feel free to make your case with data points. Eko Aug 2019 #25

because you haven't provided a gejohnston Aug 2019 #28

So just make a claim without backing it up. Eko Aug 2019 #30

You can start with this. Eko Aug 2019 #21

I was referring to defining "assault weapons" krispos42 Sep 2019 #48

I think the inventor of the AR 15 knew one when he saw one. Eko Sep 2019 #50

I see a .223 rifle. krispos42 Sep 2019 #59

Any of those are assault weapon features. Eko Sep 2019 #61

Exactly my point. krispos42 Sep 2019 #63

LOL. Eko Sep 2019 #65

Well, one is an armed truck, one isn't. krispos42 Sep 2019 #67

But your paint analogy was a good one. Eko Sep 2019 #69

Depends on use, I guess. krispos42 Sep 2019 #72

So, what you are saying is Eko Sep 2019 #75

I assumed a .223 Model 700 for equivalency krispos42 Sep 2019 #79

Where did I imply this? Eko Sep 2019 #76

This is interesting also. Eko Sep 2019 #51

And we figured it out once before so we could do it again. Eko Sep 2019 #52

And it didn't do a damn thing to control either mass shootings or regular murders krispos42 Sep 2019 #53

People disagree with your opinion. Eko Sep 2019 #54

Okay, here's the promised data krispos42 Sep 2019 #57

In your second graph Eko Sep 2019 #58

And everything else as well. krispos42 Sep 2019 #60

What percentage of mass murders used handgans and non firearm weapons vs semi auto rifles? Eko Sep 2019 #62

A decent amount have krispos42 Sep 2019 #66

All definitions are arbitrary and can be changed. Eko Sep 2019 #77

And that is not true per your graphs. Eko Sep 2019 #64

You're right. I stand corrected krispos42 Sep 2019 #70

Gun sales decreased when it was a law then increased when it was ended. Eko Sep 2019 #71

That's not quite a logical conclusion, though. krispos42 Sep 2019 #73

Correlation does not mean causation. Eko Sep 2019 #74

FYI, IL does not have AWB statewide. Yet. nt yagotme Sep 2019 #55

BATFE definition: yagotme Sep 2019 #56

So what do you recommend to stop the massive killing spree? lark Aug 2019 #42

Thoughts and some logical reasoning followed with action for sure discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #43

I truly like those plans but they wouldn't stop the mass murderers. lark Aug 2019 #44

My thoughts are practical and immediate discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #45

BTW in the other countries direction discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #46

for mass murders, gejohnston Aug 2019 #47

So how would that have stopper the Las Vegas shooter? Eko Sep 2019 #68

So what would have stopped Jeffrey Dahmer? discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #78

Ah there it is. Eko Sep 2019 #80

Sorry, I inferred from that you thought an AWB would have stopped the Vegas shooting discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #81

What does Jeffrey Dahmer and Josef Mengele have to do with the AWB? Eko Sep 2019 #82

BTW, I never said nor do I believe... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #83

Then why bring up Jeffrey Dahmer and Josef Mengele? Eko Sep 2019 #84

Please reread the OP discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #85

Of course laws prevent crimes. Eko Sep 2019 #86

And this goes to further prove my point... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #87

Nope, Eko Sep 2019 #88

Big fat hairy deal discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #89

LOL, way too funny buddy. Eko Sep 2019 #90

Just accept what you apparently think and own it discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #91

Just accept that you cant help but Strawman me. Eko Sep 2019 #93

Well, I don't own a gun discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #94

I fear we will not be able to. krispos42 Sep 2019 #49

Mistake #6 Alea Sep 2019 #92

I'm sure if I search... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #95