Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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81. Sorry, I inferred from that you thought an AWB would have stopped the Vegas shooting

Mon Sep 9, 2019, 05:54 PM

Sep 2019

My bad.

I further infer that you think prohibitory laws will prevent crimes.
I argue that empowering the common people to prevent crime will have a greater reward.

As an example I ask you which had a greater effect on reducing drunk driving deaths:
Fines and punishments that have been around for decades or...
The social campaign that emphasized designated drivers and other measures?

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Gun-control mistakes [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 OP

I disagree with mistake #4. Eko Aug 2019 #1

sorry you disagree discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #2

Of course a single action revolver can fire faster than a semi auto AR. Eko Aug 2019 #3

Immense apologies discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #4

If I asked you for specifics, do you think you could provide them? krispos42 Aug 2019 #5

Here are some specifics for you. Eko Aug 2019 #6

like I said before, gejohnston Aug 2019 #7

See this. Eko Aug 2019 #8

So? gejohnston Aug 2019 #9

Can you point out where it says that? Eko Aug 2019 #10

right here. gejohnston Aug 2019 #11

Still dont see "special permit" Eko Aug 2019 #12

distiction without a difference gejohnston Aug 2019 #13

No, I go by details. Eko Aug 2019 #14

There is no correlation, gejohnston Aug 2019 #15

Inequality can be a major factor without a doubt, Eko Aug 2019 #16

why? gejohnston Aug 2019 #17

Because you are making the claim. Eko Aug 2019 #18

I provided evidence for income inequality, gejohnston Aug 2019 #20

I showed evidence Eko Aug 2019 #22

Yet you ignored the highest that also have gejohnston Aug 2019 #24

So do the top 50 to disprove me. Eko Aug 2019 #26

nothing can disproven, gejohnston Aug 2019 #31

Ok then, show enough data points to make mine invalid. Eko Aug 2019 #33

you haven't shown yours to be valid. gejohnston Aug 2019 #36

Show the data. Eko Aug 2019 #27

you didn't do shit gejohnston Aug 2019 #29

It acutally took me about an hour to do this. Eko Aug 2019 #32

an hour to do a few links, gejohnston Aug 2019 #34

Actually, there are two links I used Eko Aug 2019 #35

OK, gejohnston Aug 2019 #37

So fucking do it! Eko Aug 2019 #38

I did. gejohnston Aug 2019 #41

So you admit you are just trolling. Eko Aug 2019 #39

no you are. gejohnston Aug 2019 #40

I mean I have already done 2 out of the 3 data points for you. Eko Aug 2019 #19

why should I? gejohnston Aug 2019 #23

Feel free to make your case with data points. Eko Aug 2019 #25

because you haven't provided a gejohnston Aug 2019 #28

So just make a claim without backing it up. Eko Aug 2019 #30

You can start with this. Eko Aug 2019 #21

I was referring to defining "assault weapons" krispos42 Sep 2019 #48

I think the inventor of the AR 15 knew one when he saw one. Eko Sep 2019 #50

I see a .223 rifle. krispos42 Sep 2019 #59

Any of those are assault weapon features. Eko Sep 2019 #61

Exactly my point. krispos42 Sep 2019 #63

LOL. Eko Sep 2019 #65

Well, one is an armed truck, one isn't. krispos42 Sep 2019 #67

But your paint analogy was a good one. Eko Sep 2019 #69

Depends on use, I guess. krispos42 Sep 2019 #72

So, what you are saying is Eko Sep 2019 #75

I assumed a .223 Model 700 for equivalency krispos42 Sep 2019 #79

Where did I imply this? Eko Sep 2019 #76

This is interesting also. Eko Sep 2019 #51

And we figured it out once before so we could do it again. Eko Sep 2019 #52

And it didn't do a damn thing to control either mass shootings or regular murders krispos42 Sep 2019 #53

People disagree with your opinion. Eko Sep 2019 #54

Okay, here's the promised data krispos42 Sep 2019 #57

In your second graph Eko Sep 2019 #58

And everything else as well. krispos42 Sep 2019 #60

What percentage of mass murders used handgans and non firearm weapons vs semi auto rifles? Eko Sep 2019 #62

A decent amount have krispos42 Sep 2019 #66

All definitions are arbitrary and can be changed. Eko Sep 2019 #77

And that is not true per your graphs. Eko Sep 2019 #64

You're right. I stand corrected krispos42 Sep 2019 #70

Gun sales decreased when it was a law then increased when it was ended. Eko Sep 2019 #71

That's not quite a logical conclusion, though. krispos42 Sep 2019 #73

Correlation does not mean causation. Eko Sep 2019 #74

FYI, IL does not have AWB statewide. Yet. nt yagotme Sep 2019 #55

BATFE definition: yagotme Sep 2019 #56

So what do you recommend to stop the massive killing spree? lark Aug 2019 #42

Thoughts and some logical reasoning followed with action for sure discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #43

I truly like those plans but they wouldn't stop the mass murderers. lark Aug 2019 #44

My thoughts are practical and immediate discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #45

BTW in the other countries direction discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #46

for mass murders, gejohnston Aug 2019 #47

So how would that have stopper the Las Vegas shooter? Eko Sep 2019 #68

So what would have stopped Jeffrey Dahmer? discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #78

Ah there it is. Eko Sep 2019 #80

Sorry, I inferred from that you thought an AWB would have stopped the Vegas shooting discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #81

What does Jeffrey Dahmer and Josef Mengele have to do with the AWB? Eko Sep 2019 #82

BTW, I never said nor do I believe... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #83

Then why bring up Jeffrey Dahmer and Josef Mengele? Eko Sep 2019 #84

Please reread the OP discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #85

Of course laws prevent crimes. Eko Sep 2019 #86

And this goes to further prove my point... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #87

Nope, Eko Sep 2019 #88

Big fat hairy deal discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #89

LOL, way too funny buddy. Eko Sep 2019 #90

Just accept what you apparently think and own it discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #91

Just accept that you cant help but Strawman me. Eko Sep 2019 #93

Well, I don't own a gun discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #94

I fear we will not be able to. krispos42 Sep 2019 #49

Mistake #6 Alea Sep 2019 #92

I'm sure if I search... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #95