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melm00se

(5,075 posts)
13. Some of this is specious
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 11:42 AM
Mar 2022

and removes the stick necessary to ensure that the government does its job.

end online sales of guns and ammunition - online sales of guns....oooooooo....sounds scary BUT the reality is that if someone were to legally buy a gun online, the gun is delivered to a gun store in the state the purchaser resides. The purchaser must then go the normal background check before the gun can be delivered. Ammo sales, for the most part, are extremely expensive as shipping can drive the price of ammo beyond the price of local vendors. I just ran the numbers for 30 boxes of 12 gauge ammo and it added an additional 10% to the price.

close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers, abusive partners, and some individuals convicted of assault or battery to buy and possess firearms - There is already a law in place making it illegal for people convicted of these offenses or subject to retraining orders.


The “Charleston loophole” - This was designed and implemented because there are folks who would suggest and implement intentional delays in an NICS check process as a backdoor method for gun control. There is no reason for a background check to take more than 20 minutes or so.


and prevent individuals who have been convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms - again, there are laws that exist to prevent a convicted felon from buying, owning, possessing firearms. Can something be made more illegal?

We will incentivize states to enact licensing requirements for owning firearms - see Haynes v. United States which takes the teeth out of gun registration laws with 5th Amendment protections.


extreme risk protection order laws that allow courts to temporarily remove guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. - Red flag laws are extremely dicey. See Caniglia v. Strom and before you comment about a right wing Supreme Court, this was a 9-0 decision.


We will pass legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. - How will a law like this be enforced? Police checks? Does the fact that you own (or may own) a gun create a situation where you yield your 4th Amendment protections?

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NEVER Going To Stop Guns In America SoCalDavidS Jan 2022 #1
Strange..............43 posts and I can see only 15 of them. oneshooter Mar 2022 #43
Huh? SoCalDavidS Mar 2022 #44
17 posts have been dropped. oneshooter Oct 2022 #45
Have added some folks to ignore? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2022 #46
I do not put people on ignore. oneshooter Oct 2022 #47
If you have an add blocker... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2022 #48
Had Democrats not pushed for gun control so strongly over the last few decades, Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 #2
Am I the only one melm00se Jan 2022 #3
I see them all. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2022 #4
Are they too small, or are you getting broken links? n/t krispos42 Jan 2022 #5
It might be because the picture links.. krispos42 Jan 2022 #6
broken links melm00se Jan 2022 #7
Deafening silence. krispos42 Jan 2022 #8
The antigun activists on this site haven't the faintest interest in debating facts. Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 #9
Yeah, well. I had a beaut of a response for you, and I chickened out. Paladin Jan 2022 #10
Intriguing reply indeed krispos42 Jan 2022 #11
shall issue ccw was not wanted in the first place jimmy the one Feb 2022 #12
Some of this is specious melm00se Mar 2022 #13
re: "Can something be made more illegal?" discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #14
Like the log I heard some businesses make you do to log your work time? yagotme Mar 2022 #15
my unanimous decision trumps yours jimmy the one Mar 2022 #16
re: Miller... looking to move in standup comedy? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #18
re: juvenile ad hominem jimmy the one Mar 2022 #19
Okay discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #20
No one objected, because Miller was deceased, yagotme Mar 2022 #21
Re: "my unanimous decision trumps yours" Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #22
1939 Miller decision, cont'd #1 jimmy the one Mar 2022 #23
RE: 1939 Miller decision, cont'd #1 Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #28
weasel words jimmy the one Mar 2022 #29
That sounds like confession by projection from you. Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #32
prior state's right to bear arms decrees circa 1776 jimmy the one Mar 2022 #24
RE: State RKBA provisions Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #30
bluntly speaking jimmy the one Mar 2022 #25
Bluntly true . . . Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #31
provide links or excerpts for 'dissents' jimmy the one Mar 2022 #33
You couldn't have read the dissents . . . Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #34
You can read but you cannot comprehend much jimmy the one Mar 2022 #35
That's some inventive reading . . . Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #36
SUDDENLY, an excoriation jimmy the one Mar 2022 #37
Take a breath, calm down . . . Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #38
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Sorry, not sorry, sanctimonious is what I do . . . Surf Fishing Guru Mar 2022 #39
a blast from the past jimmy the one Mar 2022 #26
scalia erred in heller -1 jimmy the one Mar 2022 #27
mel's smoke and mirrors jimmy the one Mar 2022 #17
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