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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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9. I'd have to agree but...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 12:44 PM
Mar 2022

I've always had a problem justifying policy and regulations based on surveys and statistics. I also see that there are 3 problems with DGU statistics.

One is the surveys of folks about DGUs where some percentage of people respond with a positive for an incident where a crime was averted because the subject smacked the perpetrator with a briefcase containing an unloaded black powder pistol.

Also a problem is the idea that police reports and perpetrator body counts are the only actual instances of DGUs.

The other problem is folks that want to justify their campaigns for more or fewer restrictions based on those, IMO, invalid collections of data from either end of the spectrum. IMO, there is ample evidence for many valid and justified DGUs. Setting the standards for who can carry open or concealed and where is a great topic for discussion as is the type of training and other requirements that should be enforced. (I'm not a fan of systems where anyone who can legally own a gun is allowed to carry with no licensing requirements.)

YMMV

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Seems a bit excessive Buzz cook Mar 2022 #1
Would it have been less excessive had he been robbing a Neiman Marcus? Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #4
How frequently are people killed by armed robbers? Buzz cook Mar 2022 #16
I'm not sure of the likelihood of a "typical" robber injuring or killing their victim(s). Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #17
And if the robber were Buzz cook Mar 2022 #18
Once he is no longer a threat, the judicial process takes over. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #19
And how threatening? Buzz cook Mar 2022 #23
Jurisdictions may vary in the answer to these questions. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #24
Well that's an easy fix DashOneBravo Mar 2022 #7
Isn't that what the robber was there with a gun to threaten to do? LiberatedUSA Mar 2022 #10
As the kids now say bottomofthehill Mar 2022 #2
As of yesterday . . . AndyS Mar 2022 #3
I infer those are year to date numbers. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #5
I'd say something that can be verified. Otherwise it's just opinion and opinions are AndyS Mar 2022 #6
Hell, I had a Defensive Crossbow Use The Mouth Mar 2022 #8
I'd have to agree but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #9
The Gun Violence Archive uses AndyS Mar 2022 #11
re: "...what else is there?" discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #12
"What else" referrs to what to base AndyS Mar 2022 #13
Yes, I know that "what else" referred to. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #14
I'm sorry, I can't let this go. AndyS Mar 2022 #15
Replies discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #20
I give up. AndyS Mar 2022 #21
Can we just agree that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #22
Question... yagotme Mar 2022 #25
Self defense has always been legal in the home and out of it. AndyS Mar 2022 #26
Barely got past your first line. yagotme Mar 2022 #27
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