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yagotme

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10. What I was saying earlier,
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:24 PM
Mar 2022

that surveys can be twisted/maligned to get a certain outcome. Hard data, like in IL, and nationwide NICS figures, have a firmer showing of what's happening in the country. Pushing a ban on "assault weapons", when they are probably in the top 3 types of firearms sold, is most likely a losing proposition. Proper definition of terms, (always a good argument starter on this site,) needs to be used, and understood. If it's not clear, the courts will have a field day with the new law, and it will be tossed. Hard to get your point across, when you're using a blunt tip, so to say.

To get back to your OP, I was trying to provide you with some solid, not surveyed, data. Again, I realize that this was from 1 state, but, like earlier, comparing 1 state with the overall national rise should give a better view than a poll. No one knows the exact #'s you seek, and probably never will, without a complete and total police state. Hoped my input might shed a slightly clearer light on the data.

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I protect my home padfun Mar 2022 #1
I do not have a gun sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #2
I do have a gun. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #3
Chicago Trib, Dec 10, 2020 yagotme Mar 2022 #4
That is certainly a large increase and I wish all states required this kind of licensing AndyS Mar 2022 #5
The FOID and CC licensing is harder data, yagotme Mar 2022 #6
Perhaps but the assumption can't be quantified and is useless for policy decisions AndyS Mar 2022 #7
That goes along with the assumption that a survey showing a decrease in ownership, yagotme Mar 2022 #8
What do you suggest we use? AndyS Mar 2022 #9
What I was saying earlier, yagotme Mar 2022 #10
So, if we are to have the kind of hard data the gun rights side wants should we have a AndyS Mar 2022 #11
Fishing with an empty hook, I see. yagotme Mar 2022 #12
This is where we always end up. Paranoia wins out and we have the equivalent of AndyS Mar 2022 #13
Well, let's see... yagotme Mar 2022 #14
ARRRRREERGHGGGH1!111 AndyS Mar 2022 #15
Sheesh. Ok. Google dump coming up. No need to curse. yagotme Mar 2022 #16
Just declare victory and go home. Sources are flawed, so here are my sources to show AndyS Mar 2022 #17
Well, you asked for sources that showed people lie to pollsters. Rather vehemently, too. yagotme Mar 2022 #18
That's not the complaint, the issue is the moving goal posts. nt AndyS Mar 2022 #19
Your OP asked for credible data from sources. yagotme Mar 2022 #20
I'm guessing that all my responses to you will always be insufficient and lacking. what you said . . AndyS Mar 2022 #21
Here's some more data for you to process: yagotme Apr 2022 #23
So many different kinds of gun owners The Mouth Apr 2022 #22
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