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westerebus

(2,977 posts)
14. I am in no way being "shitty" with you.
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:20 PM
Sep 2013

Not every one understands how the civil service works, let alone veteran's preference.

I tried to explain that in the first post. Civil service pensions have changed.

Almost everybody is covered under social security and the Federal Retirement System which is an IRA. No one under the new system can double dip with out an offset of 90% to their social security if they were retired under the older civil service pension program.

So even though I pay into social security, I will never collect more than 10%. That's in the plus column for the civilian side who never did military service or worked as a government employee.

I did not go to work for DOD.

I know people who did contract work for DOD that were retired military. What they got paid was far larger than what a government employee would have received The offset being in lieu of a pension or any thing else a vet might receive. I'm not a big fan of government contractors. The mess they leave behind has to be dealt with by the government employees.

Are we good?



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"Reforming pension and health programs." Stargazer09 Sep 2013 #1
More force shaping ahead! Early outs, tougher PT tests, more drug testing, etc.... MADem Sep 2013 #2
They should be eliminating most of the contractor and replacing them with qualified returning ... Historic NY Sep 2013 #4
That ends up costing more in some cases. MADem Sep 2013 #5
Your are incorrect. westerebus Sep 2013 #9
No, I'm not. In the end--and I see nothing wrong with this practice, but it is a fact--the vet MADem Sep 2013 #10
We get 5 points for being veterns on the exams we take for qualification too. westerebus Sep 2013 #12
No, I don't this is "unfair" at all. It's a benefit of service. MADem Sep 2013 #13
I am in no way being "shitty" with you. westerebus Sep 2013 #14
Then do it! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #3
Sounds good, but that's another 110,000 on the street... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #6
From my perspective the problem starts here: unhappycamper Sep 2013 #7
Always has been, but... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #8
That's not the national budget, though. MADem Sep 2013 #11
The military budget is in discretionary spending, not mandatory spending. unhappycamper Sep 2013 #15
And discretionary spending is less than a third of the total budget. MADem Sep 2013 #16
And the military budget comes out of the same (Discretionary) pie as Labor, Education, Science, etc. unhappycamper Sep 2013 #17
Yes, it's 57 percent of thirty percent. nt MADem Sep 2013 #18
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