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Bleacher Creature

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18. That's what I don't get either.

Tue Jan 25, 2022, 04:38 PM

Jan 2022

Ortiz is likely to get in someday, even though his name has been linked to PEDs, which is the case for Bonds and Clemens. A-Rod and McGwire both admitted to it, although A-Rod is another one who would have gotten in without them.

And where do you draw the line? For example, what would people do if Albert Pujols suddenly started taking PEDs to try and get one last year of below average hitting. Does that last year negate everything else he's done?

I'm fine with having an asterisk on his plaque and a discussion of the allegations, but it's crazy to me that Bonds isn't in.

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Column: If Barry Bonds isn't a Hall of Famer by the end of the day, it's a failure by the HOF [View all] Bleacher Creature Jan 2022 OP

Yeah even though I'm from the Bay, I dunno that I'd go this far ... Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #1

He certainly was Casady1 Jan 2022 #7

I think the consensus is that he first started taking PEDs in 1999. Bleacher Creature Jan 2022 #8

Fair enough, I guess what I'm questioning is whether the 'reported' use is really when it started Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #9

But he didn't, and his eligibility should be judged on his *whole* career Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #13

Nope madville Jan 2022 #2

Amen! overleft Jan 2022 #3

What are your feelings Casady1 Jan 2022 #6

Be consistent madville Jan 2022 #11

do you know Casady1 Jan 2022 #12

I didn't mention them specifically, you tell me madville Jan 2022 #16

So you basically know nothing Casady1 Jan 2022 #19

Keep your blinders on if you wish madville Jan 2022 #20

I have been following baseball Casady1 Jan 2022 #21

I agree SCantiGOP Jan 2022 #15

No, no he doesn't. n/t ms liberty Jan 2022 #4

* unweird Jan 2022 #5

No fucking way. Bonds, Canseco and McGwire nearly destroyed the sport Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #10

How do you feel Casady1 Jan 2022 #14

That's what I don't get either. Bleacher Creature Jan 2022 #18

x1000! Capt. America Feb 2022 #22

Sometimes cheaters don't win. Xoan Jan 2022 #17