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In reply to the discussion: Exegesis vs. Eisegesis [View all]

MineralMan

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3. Your NRA example is exactly right.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:08 AM
Dec 2018

It is an example of eisegesis applied to the US Constitution. It is a biased interpretation of the words of the 2nd Amendment, based on faulty logic and a desire to make firearms ownership universal.

However, the words are generally used to describe two very different approaches to hermeneutics, the general term that describes Bible interpretation.

Often, amateur Bible "experts" switch back and forth between the two methods, depending on which one suits their immediate needs.

For example, attempting to apply current knowledge of cosmology to the Genesis creation story to somehow align the ancient words with modern information is eisegesis in action. It's an attempt to bend the actual words of an ancient mythological explanation to fit actual information. In reality, the story is what it is - an attempt to answer unanswerable questions of the long past, using language that made sense to the people who heard it. Trying to make that old myth fit in with modern discoveries requires the use of false logic - sophistry.

However, your priest example is not quite on point. It all depends on the denomination of the minister. The Catholic Church historically has interpreted scripture through exegisis. Other denominations may weave various amounts of eisegesis into their interpretations. There's a wide range of methods.

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Exegesis vs. Eisegesis [View all] MineralMan Dec 2018 OP
Now I know. Polly Hennessey Dec 2018 #1
When exegesis becomes eisegesis Cartoonist Dec 2018 #2
Your NRA example is exactly right. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3
Of course, the other problem with eisegesis is that you're not actually following a religion Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #4
Well, that follows the general path of how religions are created, I guess. MineralMan Dec 2018 #5
I don't think it's new at all marylandblue Dec 2018 #7
The New Testament may well have been written purposely to MineralMan Dec 2018 #10
It's eisegesis either way. marylandblue Dec 2018 #12
Yes, it is. MineralMan Dec 2018 #13
True. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #9
Why is it a different religion? marylandblue Dec 2018 #11
Well, Christianity has been stretched pretty far. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14
The determination of a "new religion" is subjective marylandblue Dec 2018 #15
As a non-Christian and atheist, I simply MineralMan Dec 2018 #16
It's not a subject I can imagine boasting about, so I take their word for it Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #18
With Christians, the problem with looking at their behavior Mariana Dec 2018 #24
I rely on Matthew for the basics. MineralMan Dec 2018 #25
Of course many splits are about authority. From above, religion is always about authority. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #17
That's not a bug, it's a feature. marylandblue Dec 2018 #6
It's fine until they start murdering heretics again. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #8
Well, in some Islamic countries, that's an ongoing thing. MineralMan Dec 2018 #19
I can never keep those straight. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #20
Be a lumper. All of those are in danger in some places. MineralMan Dec 2018 #21
Or "reading out" vs "reading in". Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #22
Well put. MineralMan Dec 2018 #23
Nostradamas is an excellent example Major Nikon Dec 2018 #26
Yes, and looking back at his "prophesies" MineralMan Dec 2018 #27
Hindsight is crystal clear Major Nikon Dec 2018 #28
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