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guillaumeb

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45. #1) Water is the common element.
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 05:34 PM
Dec 2018

#2) Water as cleansing agent is mentioned many times in the OT and the NT.


#3) Water is symbolic of cleansing the body of sin. As in Baptism or the ritual cleansing in the OT.


#4) The Flood was written to show sin being cleansed from the entire world.

So, based on those 3 factors, the flood can be treated as a metaphor for cleansing and renewal.

From a Christian perspective:

Protestant Interpretations
The most prevalent nineteenth-century Protestant understandings of the Flood of Noah viewed it as a symbol of baptism—that is, the Flood was a type or symbol of Christian baptism and its cleansing nature. First Peter 3:18–21 provided the proof text for Protestant (as well as Latter-day Saint) commentators.


https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/let-us-reason-together/was-noah-s-flood-baptism-earth

From a Jewish perspective:


In 1 Peter 3:18–22, we learn that the story of Noah is also a picture of salvation and water baptism. Noah is a prophetic antetype of Yeshua.
To start with, Noah building the ark is a prophetic picture of the redeemed believer working out his own salvation (Phil 2:12), yet while doing so according to YHVH’s exact plans or specifications (e.g. repentance from sin, faith in Yeshua, baptism for the remission of sins, and faithful obedience to YHVH’s commandments).
Noah builds an ark of safety from Elohim’s wrath or judgments against sinful man. The ark is a metaphorical picture of the believer’s salvation, and Noah is a spiritual picture of Yeshua. The flood is also a picture of water baptism for the remission of sins, which ceremonially pictures the death of the old sinful man, and the birth of the new spiritual man (Rom 6:3–6). Water can both clean one of dirt and kill


https://hoshanarabbah.org/blog/tag/the-flood/

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Nice. delisen Dec 2018 #1
It's up to personal interpretation Lordquinton Dec 2018 #2
Yup. You have to find the metaphor. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3
And it has to be the correct metaphor Lordquinton Dec 2018 #4
The beginning is an excellent metaphorical version of the Big Bang theory. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5
You keep forgetting to qualify this as your opinion Major Nikon Dec 2018 #17
An unrealistic position. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18
When then at least you are honest about your duplicity Major Nikon Dec 2018 #19
And you are consistently insulting. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21
You insulted yourself by admitting to being duplicitous Major Nikon Dec 2018 #34
And you follow insult with false accusation. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #41
Kinda rich coming from the one who without basis calls non-believers here "intolerant" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #46
Points for being consistent. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #47
So everyone who disagrees with you now is a "definer" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #48
No, you called "bullshit" on a well known position on water as Biblical metaphor. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #49
Sure, just like everyone who calls bullshit on invisible sky daddies is a "believer" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #50
Your response reveals what you want to believe. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #57
Sure, the alternative to that is duplicity Major Nikon Dec 2018 #61
And again, your responses are either gifs, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #62
So far just in the last day you have called me... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #63
Please! TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #52
So if a non-theist attempts to be "THE DEFINER" I should overlook the attempt? eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #58
Hey, it was YOUR GOD that allegedly said ... TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #59
So non-theists become the definers? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #60
So the authors of Genesis knew about the Big Bang thousands of years before Georges Lemaitre? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #39
I said exactly what I meant. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #42
And yet the problem remains unaddressed. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #55
Another attempt at reconciliation/explanation: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #6
The Earth was not created for 10 billion years edhopper Dec 2018 #16
And there is this, from the same source as above: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7
You appear to have missed the satirical tone of my MineralMan Dec 2018 #8
Sharing information is never a waste of time. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
You did not share information. MineralMan Dec 2018 #10
I shared viewpoints that differ from your own views. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #11
You shared examples of eisegesis. MineralMan Dec 2018 #12
You made a claim about myths reflecting a knowledge of the Big Bang theory. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #13
.. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14
I am also sorry. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15
Deriving hidden meanings from the bible. Wow, what a revelation! Major Nikon Dec 2018 #20
Interpreting metaphor 101. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22
Thanks for that, Captain Obvious Major Nikon Dec 2018 #23
And you are free to"call bullshit", just as we are free to interpret that call guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24
Credibility speaks for itself when an "interpretation" is obvious strawman bullshit Major Nikon Dec 2018 #25
More confirrmation, not that it is needed, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #30
"confirmation" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #31
Yes, there is a lot of projection in these posts. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #32
Ah yes, the fully predictable rework of the tired old "I'm rubber, you're glue" cliche Major Nikon Dec 2018 #33
#42! MineralMan Dec 2018 #38
My literature classes taught me that metaphors did not have infinite meaning marylandblue Dec 2018 #40
And? eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #43
And it means you can't treat a flood and a baptism as the same metaphor marylandblue Dec 2018 #44
#1) Water is the common element. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #45
Both of your examples refer to a literal flood, not a metaphorical one Major Nikon Dec 2018 #51
Your second link is from a Hebrew Christian source, not Jewish marylandblue Dec 2018 #53
Yes, we have a special word for Jews that believe in Jesus. TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #56
I'm guessing "Canadian girlfriend" underpants Dec 2018 #26
Our time should be better spent. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #27
I see. Well, I guess you told me, then. MineralMan Dec 2018 #28
I was raised Roman Catholic, which means I was never encouraged to read the Bible. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #29
Now you know why the RCC kept the bible under lock and key for centuries Major Nikon Dec 2018 #35
Alas, it's not even very good science fiction. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #36
Imagine the worst immorality. There's probably a reference condoning it in the bible Major Nikon Dec 2018 #37
Well that should irritate gay texan Dec 2018 #54
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