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TreasonousBastard

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10. I have been on the boards of several churches and nonprofits, and the problem is...
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:39 PM
May 2019

not religion but the basic inability of humans to too often fully pull together. It's great that we are not bees in a hive, but that leads us off into our own personal beliefs and actions that do not support the group, and often tend to trash it.

Just three of those groups...

One group, essentially social, that had no particular aims but was based on, shall we say, a personal condition (think along the lines of "bald Headed Men of America&quot . It had a vague stated aim of service, but ended up almost destroying itself in internecine wars. Never once was it mentioned how these usurpers or other evil types were going to further whatever aims we had, but either the old order must be abolished or the newcomers raised to power. No peace or accommodation could possibly be allowed.

Another group, essentially supporting scientific studies, had a similar revolution because certain people out of power simply hated those who were running things. The fact that they existed was the problem, and every little thing was blown out of all proportion. (Very similar to the first group) Secret meetings were held, the villains were expunged, and the organization went back to being a sleepy little thing out in the middle of nowhere.

The church I am thinking of was previously split almost in half by a former minister who had this Trumpian ability to sow strife wherever he showed up. He was eventually shown the door, but not before leaving a very bad taste in everyone's mouths. We had ex-Catholics, Jews, atheists, homosexuals, and various races all getting along in a Peaceable Kingdom-- until it wasn't any more.

The thing these three groups had in common were nebulous goals and being run by volunteers. Hate to say it, but unless everyone in the organization has a stake in it, like a paycheck, it's herding cats times 10. Not impossible, of course, but on very thin ice.

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Every church organization I've heard about is a Peyton Place Major Nikon May 2019 #1
... and I don't think they teach Business Ed in Seminary. JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #4
I have heard the same. nt. Mariana May 2019 #7
It's really hard on someone just coming back into 'church life'... JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #8
Maybe another church would be a better fit for you. Mariana May 2019 #12
I am looking at options... thanks for chatting! JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #13
You are dealing with humans. guillaumeb May 2019 #2
I just didn't expect the Narcissism and backbiting to be so rampant. JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #5
People become invested in what they see as the best way to proceed. guillaumeb May 2019 #9
I'm sure it varies from church to church. MineralMan May 2019 #3
Maybe.. after I get my 2 weeks vacation starting in July! JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #6
I have been on the boards of several churches and nonprofits, and the problem is... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #10
It is my first time in dealing with Volunteers as well.. the unpaid heroes... JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #14
I was in charge of an annual dinner for one of these orgs, and... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #16
Ah, that set up & clean up can be rough JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #18
As the husband of a church secretary Bavorskoami May 2019 #11
gaslighting... wow, that is definitely going on here.... JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #15
I have been away from religion for a long time. edhopper May 2019 #17
I can't go into too much detail since I don't want to discovered... JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #19
As Jordan Peele would say "Get Out!" edhopper May 2019 #22
The writing on the wall is quite plain... guess I just needed to hear others. :) n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #23
Nobody ever regreted leaving edhopper May 2019 #24
It's variable. Igel May 2019 #20
In Charge of the Climate of the Church JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #21
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