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In reply to the discussion: Religion in the classroom: Where the faithful and the ACLU can agree [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)40. Your source is bending the truth. (AKA Lying)
This is not 'the American Civil Liberties Union's joint statement'.
This is a joint statement by
American Jewish Congress, Chair
American Civil Liberties Union
American Jewish Committee
American Muslim Council
Anti-Defamation League
Baptist Joint Committee
Christian Legal Society
General Conference of Seventh day Adventists
National Association of Evangelicals
National Council of Churches People for the American Way
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
American Jewish Congress, Chair
American Civil Liberties Union
American Jewish Committee
American Muslim Council
Anti-Defamation League
Baptist Joint Committee
Christian Legal Society
General Conference of Seventh day Adventists
National Association of Evangelicals
National Council of Churches People for the American Way
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
This is a committee-made statement. ALL of these organizations worked to author and pass this statement. It is not 'the ACLU's', does not belong to the ACLU, and as far as I can tell, this 1995 document does not exist on the ACLU's website/archive.
Endorsing Organizations
American Ethical Union American Humanist Association Americans for Religious liberty Americans United for Separation of Church and State B'nai B'rith, International Christian Science Church, Church of the Brethren, Washington Office Church of Scientology International Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Lutheran Office of Governmental Affairs Federation of Reconstructionist Congregations and Havurot Friends Committee on National Legislation Guru Gobind Singh Foundation Interfaith Alliance Interfaith Impact for Justice and Peace National Council of Jewish Women National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC) National Ministries, American Baptist Churches, USA National Sikh Center North American Council for Muslim Women Presbyterian Church (USA) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society
American Ethical Union American Humanist Association Americans for Religious liberty Americans United for Separation of Church and State B'nai B'rith, International Christian Science Church, Church of the Brethren, Washington Office Church of Scientology International Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Lutheran Office of Governmental Affairs Federation of Reconstructionist Congregations and Havurot Friends Committee on National Legislation Guru Gobind Singh Foundation Interfaith Alliance Interfaith Impact for Justice and Peace National Council of Jewish Women National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC) National Ministries, American Baptist Churches, USA National Sikh Center North American Council for Muslim Women Presbyterian Church (USA) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society
THIS section from your source is complete and utter lies.
"The sad fact is that it is possible to journey from first grade to a doctorate in U.S. school systems having never once taken a survey course on the Bible, much less having been introduced to basic knowledge of the worlds religions. When religion is treated at all, it is usually in bits and pieces the biblical references in Melvilles Moby Dick, perhaps, or the religious issues fueling the Crusades....."
Basic knowledge of the world's religions IS taught in public schools, as you can tell when christians LOSE THEIR EVERLOVING SHIT and sue schools for 'INDOCTRINATING THEIR KIDS INTO ISLAM' by, you know, mentioning the existence of said religion and describing its tenets.
"11th grade World History class"
https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Thomas-More-Law-Center-Files-Lawsuit-On-Behalf-of-Marine-Dad-Banned-from-Schoo-After-He-Objected-to-Islamic-Indoctrination-Complaint-Time-Stamped.pdf
And as one might expect, the case was thrown the fuck out by Judge George Jarrod Hazel, and appeal appears to have been denied.
So. Your source is not actually the ACLU as it was proffered, and your source spun the whole thing, and lied to your face. I eagerly await you doing the honest thing and withdrawing the false material.
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Religion in the classroom: Where the faithful and the ACLU can agree [View all]
guillaumeb
Jun 2019
OP
That is not a narrow view. If anything the religious have the narrow view based on unproven myth.
wasupaloopa
Jun 2019
#31
I really doubt the ACLU favors any course of instruction, that is not it's purpose.
wasupaloopa
Jun 2019
#33
I have never read a primary or secondary level history textbook that did not show bias.
guillaumeb
Jun 2019
#11
I have never heard of a biased history lesson violating the establishment clause.
Act_of_Reparation
Jun 2019
#16
Excellent, so the next time the ACLU says something, can we assume you will agree with them?
trotsky
Jun 2019
#17
You are berating everyone who disagrees with you by saying the ACLU supports your position.
trotsky
Jun 2019
#20
Everyone knows religionnews.com is the most reliable source of information anywhere!
trotsky
Jun 2019
#25
Fuck that! Why do we need to study a religion's dogma? We do not need religion which does more
wasupaloopa
Jun 2019
#28
No you do not. Religion is not central to society. The religious like to think so since they measure
wasupaloopa
Jun 2019
#34