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zipplewrath

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20. Mostly "magical thinking"

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:51 AM

Jun 2019

It is a particular way of thinking, that finds itself rooted in alot of GOP positions. Not that some liberals can't also be guilty of it. There is a way of thinking in which one determines how things "should" work, and therefore that must be how the "do " work. It is especially problematic in the area of human behavior. I always cringe when someone starts a though about cause and effect in human behavior with "but no one would CHOOSE to...".

"Serious" theologians/philosophers generally get to a place where they admit and understand that there is rarely if ever a direct connection between moral behavior and worldly outcomes. The usual expression is "bad things happen to good people". Mostly they take a position that more approximates Las Vegas. Doing the right thing may not result in good things happening, but that's the way to bet.

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For Those Who Argue That the First Amendment Protects [View all] MineralMan Jun 2019 OP

amen! very well thought out. Too bad the lawyers can't think. demigoddess Jun 2019 #1

I don't know that that particular issue has actually been tested. MineralMan Jun 2019 #2

Although his crimes were different, trev Jun 2019 #3

Your correct zipplewrath Jun 2019 #4

Is there a higher law that requires priests not to rape children? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #5

RCC has defended the confession, repeatedly stopdiggin Jun 2019 #8

We already have a resident member who fills us in on the RCC's position on the subject Major Nikon Jun 2019 #10

you mistake me for an apologist stopdiggin Jun 2019 #12

Didn't say or imply that, but it would be an easy mistake to make Major Nikon Jun 2019 #13

We also have a resident misframer who loves to build with straw. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #15

They're the same person Lordquinton Jun 2019 #30

And very gifted. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #31

Yes zipplewrath Jun 2019 #11

To be fair that's how most religion exerts control Major Nikon Jun 2019 #14

Yup zipplewrath Jun 2019 #16

Sounds a bit like prosperity gospel Major Nikon Jun 2019 #17

Roughly the same thing zipplewrath Jun 2019 #18

The difference is the level of delusion required Major Nikon Jun 2019 #19

Mostly "magical thinking" zipplewrath Jun 2019 #20

Most belief systems include some sort of philosophy Major Nikon Jun 2019 #21

Usually a fundamental feature zipplewrath Jun 2019 #22

Quickly followed by the "your position isn't provable either" Major Nikon Jun 2019 #23

Well, strictly speaking they're correct zipplewrath Jun 2019 #24

I don't even make it that far Major Nikon Jun 2019 #25

My one real caveat zipplewrath Jun 2019 #26

Well, given that such a thing has never occurred, nor has any witness MineralMan Jun 2019 #27

Most atheists don't assert no god exists Major Nikon Jun 2019 #28

I agree on both points zipplewrath Jun 2019 #29

No right is absolute. trotsky Jun 2019 #6

Perhaps there should be a constitutional right to children not getting raped or killed Major Nikon Jun 2019 #7

Yes, gun nuts and religious nuts. MineralMan Jun 2019 #9