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MineralMan

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Thu Jun 13, 2019, 09:09 AM Jun 2019

Does the ACLU agree with religious groups on teaching the Bible in Schools? [View all]

Last edited Thu Jun 13, 2019, 09:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Recently, a thread in this group quoted an author's article on the religionnews.com website. That quote said:

In its Joint Statement on Current Law and Religion in the Public Schools, the organization {ACLU} declared, “It is both permissible and desirable to teach objectively about the role of religion in the history of the United States and other countries.”


As another poster pointed out, that joint statement was made by a committee made up of representatives of the following organizations:

American Jewish Congress, Chair
American Civil Liberties Union
American Jewish Committee
American Muslim Council
Anti-Defamation League
Baptist Joint Committee
Christian Legal Society
General Conference of Seventh day Adventists
National Association of Evangelicals
National Council of Churches People for the American Way
Union of American Hebrew Congregations

So, it's sort of partly true, but note the word "objectively" in that statement.

But, here's the kicker: That limited joint statement was issued 24 years ago, in 1995.

The date was not mentioned in the original article, leading readers to think that that statement was a recent one. It was not.

Why did I start a new thread about this? Because it is an example of how bias in publications often makes what one reads on biased websites deceptive. Unless the article was carefully fact-checked, it would be easy to believe that the ACLU recently agreed with some unnamed religious groups about teaching the Bible in public schools. That the date of that joint statement was not included in the article at religionnews.com was not just an oversight. It was a deliberate omission, made to add weight to something that happened almost a quarter-century ago. My new thread was created to bring attention to that fact.

Both I and another DUer, AtheistCrusader, searched for that statement and found the information that it was 24 years old. We both posted that in existing threads here, just to make sure that people had the whole story - not just the slanted story from religionnews.com. Just because something is written on the Internet does not mean that the writing is not heavily biased and deliberately deceptive. All too often, articles posted on sites like religionnews.com do not tell the whole story. They tell just what is useful for that site to put forward.

The ACLU, indeed, believes that teaching about the Bible's impact on history and its part in our literary history is OK. That, however, is not the goal of the religious right, which seeks to, and is succeeding in, getting the bible taught in schools as a means of evangelizing students. The ACLU is unalterably opposed to that, and files several lawsuits each year to stop such illegal government promotion of religious beliefs. It is not working with religious organizations to promote religion in public schools, and never will.
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Well WHATABOUT that, huh? n/t trotsky Jun 2019 #1
I suspect the one who repeatedly connects timeliness with relevance might want to know this Major Nikon Jun 2019 #2
Oh, the Christian Right was trying to get the Bible taught in schools MineralMan Jun 2019 #3
Trying badly Major Nikon Jun 2019 #4
The role of religion in history Cartoonist Jun 2019 #5
Exactly. The Religious want to teach religion. MineralMan Jun 2019 #6
I've got to admit, it's a funny picture Cartoonist Jun 2019 #11
They especially want it in schools Major Nikon Jun 2019 #9
The poster in question moved on to Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #7
Yes. That trick won't work, either. MineralMan Jun 2019 #8
Wonder how long that will last? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #10
How clever of you. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #16
False. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #15
The poster did not start an op about how Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #17
When all else fails there's always gaslighting Major Nikon Jun 2019 #18
Pure projection. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #24
For me the bigger issue was the lies that were cloaked AROUND that bit about the ACLU, AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #12
Yes. The problem is the source of such stories. MineralMan Jun 2019 #13
Proportional Coverage SomewhereInTheMiddle Jun 2019 #19
That would make sense, and to a degree that is what I have observed. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #23
So, in essence, the article was correct. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #14
No, you were completely wrong. trotsky Jun 2019 #20
Laughable. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #25
Yes, your threads are laughably consistent. trotsky Jun 2019 #34
You are persistent in misframing those who you see as the enemy. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #37
You value religious privilege over secular equality. trotsky Jun 2019 #40
In a very long line of trainwrecks Major Nikon Jun 2019 #27
Yep, that's the pattern. trotsky Jun 2019 #35
Yes, I suggest you read my entire post. MineralMan Jun 2019 #21
Before, I concluded only the article you cited was full of lies. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #22
I cannot tell you how much your assessment means to me. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #26
Been reading "How to Win Friends and Influence People," have you? MineralMan Jun 2019 #30
Are you speaking from experience? eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #33
It's ok. I could tell when you failed to respond to any of the points in my original post highlighti AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #31
The proselytization wolf dressed up in sheep's clothing objective history...lol Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #28
Every chance they get. MineralMan Jun 2019 #29
They literally sue when other religions are given class time in said history and social studies AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #32
Or they have their own children do it for them Major Nikon Jun 2019 #36
What my post said: guillaumeb Jun 2019 #38
Must my posts be "necessary?" MineralMan Jun 2019 #39
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