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magical thyme

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23. you misquoted me
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:20 AM
Mar 2012

I did NOT write that I "desperately WANTED validation." I wrote that I desperately NEEDED it. That is in hindsight.

I did not write here specifically looking for validation (or maybe acknowledgement), but for general suggestions and advice.

In *hindsight* I needed for people to simply recognize my very real suffering and respond to that with suggestions on how to fix the issues. A little sympathy would have been nice as well. Instead, I got a response that simply left me feeling isolated.

"I think that was your first mistake. "
" I don't see the response you mentioned as being "cruel" in the least. "
" I guess I am just tired of people judging responses to their issues."

And those are classic "blame the victim" responses. You don't see a response as cruel because you are not putting yourself in the shoes of the person who is reaching out. You are glossing over another's suffering because you, yourself, do not feel it.

You can write that you are tired of people judging other's responses. Understand, I was not judging responses in the moment -- I was responding to the responses. They evoked greater suffering in me. That is not judgement; it is reality. That is all.

So people can read this and choose to blame me for daring to complain or criticize a philosophy I have a problem with. Or they can read this and take away a lesson -- that when people are in deep suffering, it may not be the best time to give a supposedly spiritual reply that they *chose* to suffer, which reflects personal beliefs that many, many people do NOT share. A simple, "I'm sorry for what you are suffering" is a far, far better response than suggesting that people deliberately and consciously chose suffering for themselves.

Which brings us back to the topic of the thread. I have real issues with "soul contract," which to me is an easy way to blame the victim. I do NOT in any way, shape or form believe that our souls deliberately and consciously choose bad experiences either to teach or to learn or for any freakin' reason offered. They may unconsciously attract or create them -- and unconscious is the crucial term here. It is in learning to make fully conscious choices that we can undo negative karma, imho.

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Every story needs its antagonist Saokymo Mar 2012 #1
Perhaps in the long term, edgineered Mar 2012 #2
It is my understanding that SheilaT Mar 2012 #3
I'm just going to flat out say that he made a pact, in addition to being Ecumenist Mar 2012 #4
That possibility (being afraid of what's waiting for him) has come up several times BlueIris Mar 2012 #5
I don't think that it hurt being dick cheney and having lot's a dead presidents Ecumenist Mar 2012 #6
That's about how I feel Saokymo Mar 2012 #7
LOL! Howler Mar 2012 #8
What if he gets a good heart and it changes him... icymist Mar 2012 #9
HHHHHHHOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! Howler Mar 2012 #11
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! icymist Mar 2012 #13
That is exactly what I was thinking Tumbulu Mar 2012 #17
Re: rejection... BlueIris Mar 2012 #10
I had a real problem with him getting the transplant since I've signed to be a donor. GardeningGal Mar 2012 #12
Interesting to think about... BanzaiBonnie Mar 2012 #14
The best thing for everyone is if Cheney has a real change of heart. bigmonkey Mar 2012 #15
Sylvia Browne may have an answer. Cleita Mar 2012 #16
There Are Just People Who Feel Entitled dynasaw Mar 2012 #18
I think only Cheney could truly know his soul purpose magical thyme Mar 2012 #19
Thank you for sharing your experience, magical thyme. BlueIris Mar 2012 #20
I think it's important not to jump to conclusions and assume someone is trying holy fool Mar 2012 #22
Thank you, BlueIris magical thyme Mar 2012 #24
Here is my problem with what you describe: holy fool Mar 2012 #21
you misquoted me magical thyme Mar 2012 #23
Sorry for the misquote the holy fool Mar 2012 #26
first the problem was saying I "wanted" magical thyme Mar 2012 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #30
and this is where it again shows how unfamiliar you are with this group magical thyme Mar 2012 #31
Well said MT Ricochet21 Mar 2012 #32
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #33
LOL maddezmom Mar 2012 #34
Whew.... OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #36
I can see how you would think I was unfamiliar with this group im all that Mar 2012 #43
I get your point. magical thyme Mar 2012 #45
I agree get the red out Mar 2012 #27
Thank you, and I agree get the red out Mar 2012 #25
You're right; kentauros Mar 2012 #29
Well said. :) OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #35
I'm glad it made sense to someone! kentauros Mar 2012 #37
I saw someone on Wayne Dyer's latest program last week magical thyme Mar 2012 #38
I'm glad my post made some sense to you kentauros Mar 2012 #39
Gawd, I love that... OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #41
There is a purpose; here's what I hope it is.... Avalux Mar 2012 #40
OR....... Howler Mar 2012 #42
I like your humor Tumbulu Mar 2012 #44
:) Howler Mar 2012 #46
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