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get the red out

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25. Thank you, and I agree
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 01:10 PM
Mar 2012

[Not only did I not get any of what I'd hoped for, but somebody who has sincerely dedicated herself to compassion, wrote something along the lines of "Thank you for agreeing to take on this horrible experience so the rest of us don't have to." ]

One thing I keep noticing in various lines of spiritual thought is that it can go so far that it loops back on itself and inadvertantly becomes cruel and decidedly non-spiritual. A lot of times it takes the form of blaming the victim, as in your case. I have participated in a recovery group for close to 20 years and see it there as well when people take the responsibility idea to such a length that it sometimes ends in a blame the victim mentality there as well. I also used to see it online with some devotees of "The Secret" where someone could even be blamed for their own illness because of thinking that created it.

Problems are a condition of the physical world. Someone else having a problem in no way prevents my having a problem. The way I look at it is opposite, if I can be compassionate to someone else with a problem then when I have problems maybe I can spare a little compassion for myself, or maybe I learned from the other person how to deal. We're here to help each other through after all.

On Cheney, I think what plays out will be interesting. I don't envy the man, not one bit. I have no clue what kind of physical and emotional pain a heart transplant entails. I do know that I watched my Dad fight heart disease, and his decline was in no way fun. After he had had four open heart surgeries and was debilitated from the final two, cancer took over with a giant blast while his resistance was nil and it was over for him a week after diagnosis. It was just horrible, and from that experience I feel that Cheney may prolong his life, but he may not be making the best decision for himself in doing so, but it is his decision, his path.

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Every story needs its antagonist Saokymo Mar 2012 #1
Perhaps in the long term, edgineered Mar 2012 #2
It is my understanding that SheilaT Mar 2012 #3
I'm just going to flat out say that he made a pact, in addition to being Ecumenist Mar 2012 #4
That possibility (being afraid of what's waiting for him) has come up several times BlueIris Mar 2012 #5
I don't think that it hurt being dick cheney and having lot's a dead presidents Ecumenist Mar 2012 #6
That's about how I feel Saokymo Mar 2012 #7
LOL! Howler Mar 2012 #8
What if he gets a good heart and it changes him... icymist Mar 2012 #9
HHHHHHHOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! Howler Mar 2012 #11
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! icymist Mar 2012 #13
That is exactly what I was thinking Tumbulu Mar 2012 #17
Re: rejection... BlueIris Mar 2012 #10
I had a real problem with him getting the transplant since I've signed to be a donor. GardeningGal Mar 2012 #12
Interesting to think about... BanzaiBonnie Mar 2012 #14
The best thing for everyone is if Cheney has a real change of heart. bigmonkey Mar 2012 #15
Sylvia Browne may have an answer. Cleita Mar 2012 #16
There Are Just People Who Feel Entitled dynasaw Mar 2012 #18
I think only Cheney could truly know his soul purpose magical thyme Mar 2012 #19
Thank you for sharing your experience, magical thyme. BlueIris Mar 2012 #20
I think it's important not to jump to conclusions and assume someone is trying holy fool Mar 2012 #22
Thank you, BlueIris magical thyme Mar 2012 #24
Here is my problem with what you describe: holy fool Mar 2012 #21
you misquoted me magical thyme Mar 2012 #23
Sorry for the misquote the holy fool Mar 2012 #26
first the problem was saying I "wanted" magical thyme Mar 2012 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #30
and this is where it again shows how unfamiliar you are with this group magical thyme Mar 2012 #31
Well said MT Ricochet21 Mar 2012 #32
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #33
LOL maddezmom Mar 2012 #34
Whew.... OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #36
I can see how you would think I was unfamiliar with this group im all that Mar 2012 #43
I get your point. magical thyme Mar 2012 #45
I agree get the red out Mar 2012 #27
Thank you, and I agree get the red out Mar 2012 #25
You're right; kentauros Mar 2012 #29
Well said. :) OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #35
I'm glad it made sense to someone! kentauros Mar 2012 #37
I saw someone on Wayne Dyer's latest program last week magical thyme Mar 2012 #38
I'm glad my post made some sense to you kentauros Mar 2012 #39
Gawd, I love that... OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #41
There is a purpose; here's what I hope it is.... Avalux Mar 2012 #40
OR....... Howler Mar 2012 #42
I like your humor Tumbulu Mar 2012 #44
:) Howler Mar 2012 #46
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