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TreasonousBastard

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16. Pantheism, eh? Einstein was into determinism. Got that from...

Reply to TomSlick (Reply #15)

Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:32 PM

Aug 2021

Spinoza.

While he declaimed religious mythology as children's stories, he did famously say that the universe was a creation. And if a creation, there must be a creator. Got into a huge fight with Bohr and a few others about that.

He said one point that as much as he admired the Jewish and Roman Catholic education he grew up with, actual knowlege of that creator is totally beyond us.

Said also that if he had a choice, he would be a Quaker. FWIW, I was a Quaker for years and was not surprised to hear that.

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Over in the atheists group the question was raised about God being evil... [View all] TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 OP

Yes, discussing what God is or isn't seems less appropriate in the Atheists group since we are, Croney Aug 2021 #1

Wouldn't defining God qazplm135 Aug 2021 #8

Not necessarily. myccrider Aug 2021 #18

Who said anything about changing your beliefs? qazplm135 Aug 2021 #20

Pardon if I wasn't clear about what I was responding to. myccrider Aug 2021 #22

well first of all qazplm135 Aug 2021 #23

This is my last response myccrider Aug 2021 #24

All I can say is the emergence of IDA on the 16th anniversry of Katrina is perversely ironic... hlthe2b Aug 2021 #2

Well there are a lot of "Bad Things" that they're wishing on me, so... Anon-C Aug 2021 #7

I don't get how your comment relates to mine? hlthe2b Aug 2021 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Anon-C Aug 2021 #19

According to the Bible, God does it all. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #3

which, as the OP advances, at least has the advantage stopdiggin Aug 2021 #14

What if this is all a game and we are just avatars? onlyadream Aug 2021 #4

It was actually a subset of Christians who thought of this first localroger Aug 2021 #5

It's all gray. multigraincracker Aug 2021 #6

When you're out-smarted by a talking snake of your own creation? czarjak Aug 2021 #10

Good point! Croney Aug 2021 #21

God gave men and women free will. That is why evil exists. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #11

free will evil stopdiggin Aug 2021 #13

Philosophy is also an appropriate wnylib Aug 2021 #12

You raise an imponderable. TomSlick Aug 2021 #15

Pantheism, eh? Einstein was into determinism. Got that from... TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #16

I resist the term but yeah, pretty much. TomSlick Aug 2021 #17