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onager

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Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:29 AM Sep 2015

CJ Werleman's book on Islam... [View all]

NOTE: Posted in the Atheists-Agnostics Group, a safe haven etc. etc. If you're looking for the long thread on Werleman's new book, it's in Another Forum. But most members of that Forum seem to read here too. (Cue "James Bond Theme...&quot

Along with Xian-bashing books like "Jesus Lied" and "God Hates You, Hate Him Back," in 2011 C.J. Werleman published "Koran Curious: A Guide for Infidels and Believers."

Werleman only used one translation of the Koran to write his book, and it was a doozy: Qur'an: the Final Testament, published by Islamic Productions, Tucson, Arizona, 1989.

Your BS Meters may already be pegging on the fact that this "Final Testament" of the Koran originated in Arizona.

That translation was done by Rashad Khalifa. Which is sort like referencing a translation of the Bible done by David Koresh or Rev. Jim Jones. Khalifa was an Egyptian biochemist who emigrated to the US and came up with some...interesting ideas about Islam:

Khalifa said that he was a messenger of God and that the archangel Gabriel "most assertively" told him that chapter 36, verse 3, of the Quran, "specifically" referred to him. His followers refer to him as God's Messenger of the Covenant. He promoted a strict monotheism and was a prominent Quranist, rejecting the hadith and sunnah as fabrications attributed to Muhammad by later scholars.

Islamic religious authorities were not impressed. They declared Khalifa a heretic and ruled his "authorized" translation of the Koran invalid. Since it was only authorized by himself in the first damn place.

Khalifa was also a numerology nut who fed the Quran into a computer back in 1968. And as we all know, if you already have a desired answer in your head, you can probably torture numbers into "proving" it if you work hard enough:

He wrote that the Quran contains a mathematical structure based on the number 19 and made the controversial claim that the last two verses of chapter nine in the Quran were not canonical, telling his followers to reject them.

Khalifa was murdered by one of his own followers in 1990.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashad_Khalifa

The Amazon entry on the book with great Comments, from which I stole most of the info above:

http://www.amazon.com/Koran-Curious-guide-infidels-believers/dp/0956427669/ref=pd_sim_14_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=14MEPAK56QK4JS98Q1TQ&dpID=61p7UchR5aL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR104%2C160_


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Ann Coulter sounds more legit! AlbertCat Sep 2015 #1
Thank you. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #2
Two sorts. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #3
And both call the RCC's critics "bigots" for calling out its bigoted policies. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #4
Its even more pathetic Promethean Sep 2015 #5
Anything but discuss the real bigots in the church. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #6
How's this for a glowing recommendation? onager Sep 2015 #7
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