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Brainstormy

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Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jan 2016

reading Everybody is Wrong About God, by James A. Lindsay. My Secular Humanist Book club is doing this book this month, and while I read lots of this stuff I found it a breath of fresh air and a little shocking, too, in that his contention is that we shouldn't have any more philosophical arguments about "God." (He always uses scare quotes.) He says the argument was won a long time ago. That we give credence to superstition and myth when we even involve ourselves in philosophical/theological debates about "God." (Read: the Easter Bunny, Big Foot, Satan, etc., etc.) He says we shouldn't even "do" atheism anymore because it only exists in relationship to theism, which is bunk. Pretty liberating actually.

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I disagree with you about #5. It only makes believers more defensive Warpy Jan 2016 #1
That is a smart way to deal with it. Curmudgeoness Jan 2016 #2
One of the biggest reasons I'm an Atheist? Because I don't listen to instructions. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #3
Meh. JoeyT Jan 2016 #4
Agreed about it not being about convincing the one you're arguing with. cleanhippie Jan 2016 #20
#2 and #3 make my head hurt. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2016 #5
what a blithering load of excrement... uriel1972 Jan 2016 #6
Yeah, no thanks. Iggo Jan 2016 #7
It just annoys me Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #8
People stopped binding their daughters feet when it wasn't considered attractive anymore. Freelancer Jan 2016 #9
I know these would certainly work on me. edhopper Jan 2016 #10
OMG, I think the shyster may have gotten their debate tips from this article!!!! cleanhippie Jan 2016 #21
I find lawyerly tricks edhopper Jan 2016 #24
Lawyers! trotsky Jan 2016 #25
1. Make sure you’re arguing about the same definition of God. cleanhippie Jan 2016 #22
I think I had a 500+ post thread on that edhopper Jan 2016 #23
"Ask about meaning and purpose." AlbertCat Jan 2016 #27
You might be interested in Brainstormy Jan 2016 #11
Frankly, I don't think many arguments work on any serious believers. progressoid Jan 2016 #12
Yep. I'm not trying to change their minds. Iggo Jan 2016 #13
And the secondary effect happens when a believer rants about us to a doubter: lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #15
Wrong on #2: We would not have invaded Iraq if it had been a christian country. Period. lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #14
IMHO, anyone who is arguing for their faith to the faithless has already found a crack in the veneer lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #16
Why am I seeing so many serious responses Promethean Jan 2016 #17
Cracked isn't satire. Cracked is comedy. DetlefK Jan 2016 #18
so, IOW, these are the best 5 arguments RussBLib Jan 2016 #19
For every one God you disprove, two new Gods will be made up AlbertCat Jan 2016 #26
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