Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

muriel_volestrangler

(102,710 posts)
16. Following up that first Deut reference, it means "shut up and don't complain, even if you're dying
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:35 AM
Apr 2016

thanks to following the orders of God".

Deuteronomy 6:14-16 Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you; for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land. Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah.

What happened at Massah?

Exodus 17:3-7 But the people were thirsty for water there, and they grumbled against Moses. They said, “Why did you bring us up out of Egypt to make us and our children and livestock die of thirst?”

Then Moses cried out to the Lord, “What am I to do with these people? They are almost ready to stone me.”

The Lord answered Moses, “Go out in front of the people. Take with you some of the elders of Israel and take in your hand the staff with which you struck the Nile, and go. I will stand there before you by the rock at Horeb. Strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink.” So Moses did this in the sight of the elders of Israel. And he called the place Massah and Meribah because the Israelites quarreled and because they tested the Lord saying, “Is the Lord among us or not?”

So the myth is that God told the Israelites to go into the desert, and that he would look after them. They obeyed, but found themselves dying of thirst. Asking for water to stay alive was the wrong thing to do at that point; that was asking God to prove that he exists, or that he cares, and one must never do that. God, being the type to hold a grudge, remembers it forever.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I have a stupid question [View all] Freelancer Apr 2016 OP
You shouldn't offer him apples Lordquinton Apr 2016 #1
Where was that one? Warpy Apr 2016 #2
I've been around for 60 years Cartoonist Apr 2016 #3
It's something JC said. I googled it. It's in Deuteronomy chapter of the Bible -nt Freelancer Apr 2016 #10
You might try asking over in the Religion group. mr blur Apr 2016 #4
! rurallib Apr 2016 #15
So I had to look this up kdmorris Apr 2016 #5
Luke 4:12, and Deut 6:16 Brainstormy Apr 2016 #6
Yeah, that's fairly sad kdmorris Apr 2016 #7
Following up that first Deut reference, it means "shut up and don't complain, even if you're dying muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #16
I've asked Christians before, and they don't know. I get a lot of gobbledygook. -nt Freelancer Apr 2016 #8
Sorry for being cranky, man kdmorris Apr 2016 #9
No problem. Ever wonder about snake handlers youth ministry? What would that be like? Freelancer Apr 2016 #11
LOL n/t kdmorris Apr 2016 #12
Well, I guess I have a stupid answer for you. Curmudgeoness Apr 2016 #13
There's some real heaviness in that one link -- a lot to unpack. Ugh. -nt Freelancer Apr 2016 #17
You ask. You get an answer. Curmudgeoness Apr 2016 #18
I think I get it... Freelancer Apr 2016 #20
Blind faith, babe! nt Curmudgeoness Apr 2016 #23
does anyone remember the episode of mash restorefreedom Apr 2016 #14
I don't remember that one. There is one quote that has always stayed with me, though. Freelancer Apr 2016 #19
classic! burns had some great zingers. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #21
"Don't put God into a situation where he has to obey rules." DetlefK Apr 2016 #22
Off Topic awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #24
"Don't you fucking test me. Don't you ever fucking test me." Iggo Apr 2016 #25
Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»Atheists & Agnostics»I have a stupid question»Reply #16