Atheists & Agnostics

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39. I claim the label 'agnostic atheist'

Fri Apr 19, 2024, 05:02 PM

Apr 2024

Atheism is a statement about belief, while agnosticism is a statement about knowledge. These are not two points on the same spectrum.

I am atheist because I lack belief in any god, and I am also agnostic because I can't know for certain. One would have to be all-knowing to be certain either way on the existence of a god, and nobody qualifies. In other words, everyone who isn't all-knowing is an agnostic whether they believe in god(s) or not.

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A or not A in regards to theism [View all] FreeState Apr 2024 OP

I reply to those pressuring me "None of the above." GreenWave Apr 2024 #1

See that's where I get stuck FreeState Apr 2024 #4

To wear the term Atheist is a commitment that some folks are afraid to make. Chainfire Apr 2024 #2

I definitely get that FreeState Apr 2024 #5

I absolutely don't believe there is a "god". I don't care if others do or don't believe. erronis Apr 2024 #3

I generally don't care either FreeState Apr 2024 #6

I err on the side of believing there is a god TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #7

Pascal's wager never worked for me FreeState Apr 2024 #9

I tend to look at it the other way. willamette Apr 2024 #12

It's worse than that. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #14

When I became an atheist at 14 years old, I was very gung-oh about it and considered myselt to be a Militant Atheist. spike jones Apr 2024 #8

I've always been under the impression that... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #10

The agnostic position is that the question Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #15

Yes, that's always been my impression. Think. Again. Apr 2024 #16

Hold my beer, Agnostic Dear_Prudence Apr 2024 #11

Claims about physical reality are not Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #13

You write... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #18

That position describes the basis of philosophical skepticism since descartes. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #20

Ok, so would that be an "Agnostic Theist"? Think. Again. Apr 2024 #21

Ah I misunderstood your question. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #22

Ah, so Yes. Thanks! Think. Again. Apr 2024 #23

Agnostic means you dont believe we can know IbogaProject Apr 2024 #17

Yes, and only speaking for myself.... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #19

I don't think you understand the meaning of "agnostic." Martin68 Apr 2024 #24

A or not A in logic are the only options FreeState Apr 2024 #25

Yes. But not all statements are 'logical propositions'. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #28

well then there's 3 distinct questions... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #30

Whatever. You obviously have a strong opinion on the matter. Martin68 Apr 2024 #34

I am a non practicing Christian because I don't want to be associated with the evangelical type of Christianity kimbutgar Apr 2024 #26

The Christian religion is based on what many people came to believe two thousand years ago. Midnight Writer Apr 2024 #27

My response is simple PJMcK Apr 2024 #29

But the fact that our knowledge IS ever-expanding.... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #32

Exactly so... CCExile Apr 2024 #38

Agnostic Wifes husband Apr 2024 #31

Well said. Think. Again. Apr 2024 #33

i think i am a brownist. raised liberal lutheran. i read about them in a 1871 encyclopedia brittanica. pansypoo53219 Apr 2024 #35

This is really all about interacting with other people and neither... NNadir Apr 2024 #36

My agnosticism was the off ramp to atheism Stuckinthebush Apr 2024 #37

I claim the label 'agnostic atheist' hurl Apr 2024 #39

Your definition of gnostic is a big part of my definition of the terms wysimdnwyg Apr 2024 #40

You are correct Farmer-Rick Apr 2024 #41

You asked the wrong question. AZ8theist Apr 2024 #42

Perfectly reasoned, perfectly said. Red Raider 85 Aug 2024 #45

If you define "God" vaguely enough ... Sean Andalou Aug 2024 #43

It's like a light switch, which is either "on" or "off." There is no inbetween. Red Raider 85 Aug 2024 #44

No, agnostic atheist is the precise term Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #46