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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
46. i have three posts hidden that i talk about something offensive put on du. i didnt put it out
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:09 AM
Dec 2013

someone put the shit out, and calling it out, i get a hide cause i offend. how do you not offend, when talking about the offensive.

we are told we know when we are writing something that will be hid. we are to the point where any subject that is offensive, merely talking about it offends people so can be hidden.

that is what i do. i call out the offensive. so.... who is gonna get the hide.

but, we are talking about people that never get hides, here. people that work so damn hard to avoid hides while talking about the offensive. one poster even runs them by me first. (i am the wrong person, lol. i am clueless what will be hidden). and yet still they get a hide. merely by offending those, while talking about a subject that is offensive.

you are so balanced golly, so let me ask. a poster puts up an article stating japan has vending machines on corner streets sellimg schoolgirls soiled undies to grown men.

another poster comes along and says we should be accepting of this, even respectful to the grown man. (i have already been told i am not allowed to be offended by the offensive). the poster said we should not feel ick, we should not shame the grown man, we should hold no value judgment on the man.

here i sit. what is the conclusion of grown men buying soiled underwear of girls, i ask myself? men buy the soiled undies of schoolgirls to fantasize about these girls. right? that is factual. what are they fantasizing about? conversation? respect? helping them with their homework?

no.

so. how do i convey what these men are fantasizing about and why i get to feel ick, shame these men and have a value judgment on these grown men.

do i say these grown men fantasize about making love to these girls? not accurate. any woman raped would be offended. sex? still not accurate cause that is not what it is. rape is the reality. but, i figure that will be hidden. so i choose the vulgar fuck. that is disconnecting from a consensual act as much as i can without stating rape.

i am talking about a vulgar subject.

how am i suppose to challenge this belief that was put on the board without offending. we can say i could have just not connected the dots. wrapped it up all pretty so it was easily digestible. but it is not pretty. keeping it pretty is a huge part of the problem.

i see more and more posts hidden because they may offend the jury, about a subject that is offensive. and it is telling me, the offensive is allowed. challenging the offensive is not.

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I think they're out, too. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #1
What the hell is going on? ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #2
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #7
Those attitudes do run together ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #17
i cannot believe it. NYC had a post hidden. my god, everyone. quit talking to us. you get hides. seabeyond Dec 2013 #21
That was stupid ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #33
i mean, what did the alerter state to get a hide. he is accusing duers of being misogynist and seabeyond Dec 2013 #35
Nope ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #36
i have had lots and LOTS and lOTs. lol. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #37
show off. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #38
Heh! ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #39
lol lol. ah ha. i get it. true that. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #40
i am using your post. "bigot, probably a homophobe and sexist misogynist". these have to be the seabeyond Dec 2013 #22
That hide was unfortunate. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #25
I can't believe NYC's post was hidden. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #53
^^ This is what is happening ^^ Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #55
Yes, CrispyQ Dec 2013 #61
and there YOU have it --- Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #63
If they wanted the site to be differernt, it would be BainsBane Dec 2013 #8
+1 CrispyQ Dec 2013 #56
again. Spot On. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #58
Your sig line made me laugh! CrispyQ Dec 2013 #60
ah, yeah - Thanks Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #62
and BINGO. Hit the Nail on The Head. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #57
I CANNOT believe that your post downthread was hidden. Especially given the crap that Squinch Dec 2013 #67
Share. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #3
This is more an expression of my frustration ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #5
Do you want to see something frustrating? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #9
I've only gone in there for jury duty BainsBane Dec 2013 #11
That's my point. But it is also a microcosm of R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #12
Ugh ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #13
like that little 6 yr old boy needed boundaries, we need rules. they want civility. civility comes seabeyond Dec 2013 #16
I'm missing a part of this discussion methinks. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #18
lol lol. ya. you are. and my bad. not a biggie. i am tired. and all day thing.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #19
This BainsBane Dec 2013 #20
I'm staying in here. BainsBane Dec 2013 #4
Yeah, here is good. ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #6
i hate men. i was told by ANOTHER. i hate men. that simple. i do not know how many that makes today seabeyond Dec 2013 #10
They don't read what you actually say. ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #14
thank you. i have never encountered... ok, i have, such an effort to distort what is being seabeyond Dec 2013 #15
Of course it is so obvious that so many of them hate women, but call them out on it... smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #78
Okay, I read the OP/thread. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #23
It also occurred to me that something could be going on in the boy's home BainsBane Dec 2013 #24
You could be right about the boy's home life, or...and I will go out on a limb here.. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #27
oh r. it has been a wacky couple days.... nt, wait. a wacky couple weeks anyway. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #29
Horrible week for me. Worst ever. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #31
then i am even more sorry. night... sleep tight. do NOT let any bed bugs bite. take care. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #32
Nite ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #34
Take care of yourself BainsBane Dec 2013 #41
THIS: I don't favor criminalizing childhood behavior. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #59
homophobes were out also, they thought it was unfair that boys can't kiss and touch any girl they JI7 Dec 2013 #26
oh that was stupid what ever that was. i literally quit reading when i saw the bathroom brought up. seabeyond Dec 2013 #28
Figures ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #30
Oh FFS BainsBane Dec 2013 #42
but, we should KNOW, just know, when we are saying something whether it is hide worthy. seabeyond Dec 2013 #43
The point is not to disagree BainsBane Dec 2013 #45
that is what it feels like. that is the clarification we need. if that is how this board is set up seabeyond Dec 2013 #47
I think the idea behind this is that we should know what men think before they think it...once they CTyankee Dec 2013 #48
the only way i know to do it is stay true. i figure speaking truth will keep me safe. doesnt. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #49
This has been a depressing week for me so I can only imagine how you must feel... CTyankee Dec 2013 #50
the wheels came off when we took away rules and still expected civility. feb 2004 living in the seabeyond Dec 2013 #51
AND watch your mouth man who is an ally to feminists BainsBane Dec 2013 #72
Of course! CTyankee Dec 2013 #74
To be honest, I've never experienced anything like this offline BainsBane Dec 2013 #75
Who said "power never gives up without a struggle. It never has and never will." Or something like CTyankee Dec 2013 #76
it is all in the rules, no rules. it was there. it was deleted. enough deletes, they were gone. seabeyond Dec 2013 #77
This is the new style of racism gollygee Dec 2013 #44
i have three posts hidden that i talk about something offensive put on du. i didnt put it out seabeyond Dec 2013 #46
Exactly BainsBane Dec 2013 #73
and of course the transphobes. I got a post hidden for calling a transphobic troll a bigot geek tragedy Dec 2013 #52
Are you serious? BainsBane Dec 2013 #64
No, from yesterday: geek tragedy Dec 2013 #65
That's a case of selective alerting in pursuit of a personal vendetta BainsBane Dec 2013 #66
Grrrrr.... smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #79
... and Trolls ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #54
It's been a trolltastic week. Squinch Dec 2013 #68
+1 ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #69
Actually, I should say we HOPE it's been trolltastic. We HOPE this isn't just the new DU attitude. Squinch Dec 2013 #70
Actually, I think there's been a slide toward libertarianism ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #71
"Trolltastic" LOL ! smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #80
Feel free! Squinch Dec 2013 #81
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